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In a landscape where nonprofit burnout is rampant and mid-career professionals are vanishing from the sector, Kevin and Johanna from the Collaborative Collective bring urgently needed wisdom to address this talent crisis.

The financial stakes are higher than many realize. When a skilled nonprofit professional leaves, the replacement cost exceeds $30,000—not counting the immeasurable loss of relationships and institutional knowledge. Yet despite these sobering numbers, many organizations continue investing mere "pennies per day" in professional development, if anything at all.

"If I'm not willing to spend any time developing the team, and then I can't figure out why people keep leaving..." Johanna poses this challenging question that many leaders need to confront. The conversation reveals how even cash-strapped organizations can create environments where staff feel genuinely valued and invested in, often the deciding factor in retention despite lower compensation.

Perhaps most surprising is the revelation about artificial intelligence in nonprofits. Most organizations are operating in what Kevin calls "ghost mode"—staff using AI tools without guidance or oversight, potentially creating significant risks. "If you're not doing something already with AI, you need to be," Johanna emphasizes. The pair outlines practical approaches for developing sound AI policies that protect organizations while embracing innovation, including their affordable AI Policy Lab designed specifically for smaller nonprofits.

The conversation concludes with powerful advice on sustainability. "Don't let the work ruin you, because the work needs you," Johanna counsels, sharing her personal journey toward establishing boundaries around rest. This wisdom, combined with Kevin's reminder that human-centered nonprofit work "is never going away" despite technological disruption, offers both practical guidance and renewed hope for sector leaders.

Catch Kevin and Johanna's workshop at CauseCamp on November 4-5 in Pittsburgh to dive deeper into talent development strategies for your organization.

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