What does it take to build products that stand out in one of the most technical spaces in the industry? In this podcast hosted by Cassio Sampaio, Nutanix Vice President & General Manager Dan Ciruli speaks on how product leaders can guide customers through complex infrastructure decisions and stand out in ecosystems dominated by hyperscalers. He explores the realities of legacy systems, the skills PMs need to thrive in deeply technical environments, and the opportunities emerging across the evolving infrastructure stack.