In this episode, Santigold sits down with actor and activist Shailene Woodley and Odille Zexter-Kaiser to discuss how stepping away from technology can nurture a deeper connection with ourselves and the world around us. Shailene shares insights from her years of consciously minimizing her reliance on technology, while Odille reflects on her experience as a member of New York City’s Luddite Club—a group of high school students who chose to limit their tech use in pursuit of a more intentional, grounded lifestyle. Together, they examine the profound impact of technology on our relationships and explore the benefits of embracing a more mindful way of living.

Note: The sound quality on this episode is perfectly imperfect. The irony is not lost on us. I guess since it’s an episode about stepping away from technology (one of our guests was even calling in on a flip phone), the tech gods decided to mess with us. Think of it as a lo-fi tribute to living intentionally. Thanks for rolling with it!