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“On Dwarkesh Patel’s Podcast With Richard Sutton” by Zvi
This seems like a good opportunity to do some of my classic detailed podcast coverage.
The conventions are:
Full transcript of the episode is here if you want to verify exactly what was said.
Well, that was the plan. This turned largely into me quoting Sutton and then expressing my mind boggling. A lot of what was interesting [...]
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Outline:
(01:21) Sutton Says LLMs Are Not Intelligent And Don't Do Anything
(13:51) Humans Do Imitation Learning
(19:35) The Experimental Paradigm
(23:45) Current Architectures Generalize Poorly Out Of Distribution
(28:36) Surprises In The AI Field
(30:01) Will The Bitter Lesson Apply After AGI?
(34:18) Succession To AI
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First published:
September 29th, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/fpcRpBKBZavumySoe/on-dwarkesh-patel-s-podcast-with-richard-sutton
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By LessWrongThis seems like a good opportunity to do some of my classic detailed podcast coverage.
The conventions are:
Full transcript of the episode is here if you want to verify exactly what was said.
Well, that was the plan. This turned largely into me quoting Sutton and then expressing my mind boggling. A lot of what was interesting [...]
---
Outline:
(01:21) Sutton Says LLMs Are Not Intelligent And Don't Do Anything
(13:51) Humans Do Imitation Learning
(19:35) The Experimental Paradigm
(23:45) Current Architectures Generalize Poorly Out Of Distribution
(28:36) Surprises In The AI Field
(30:01) Will The Bitter Lesson Apply After AGI?
(34:18) Succession To AI
---
First published:
September 29th, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/fpcRpBKBZavumySoe/on-dwarkesh-patel-s-podcast-with-richard-sutton
---
Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
---
Images from the article:
Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.
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