Off the back of a combined three runner-up finishes from three Challenger Series events, Jimmy & Cahill are joined by number 2 and 4 ranked athletes, Victoria's India Robinson & Hawaiian Gabriela Bryan.

The girls look back at the Challenger series so far, look at the differences in national systems and chat about gender diversity and the role they see for the next generation of female surfers.

Two outstanding surfers and outstanding humans, a great listen on the eve of the final event of the series.

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