Our next guest truly embodies joy—a sentiment beautifully reflected in the meaning of her name within her culture. Chef Fariyal Abdullahi is a multifaceted talent: an accomplished chef, entrepreneur, television personality, and the Executive Chef at Marcus Samuelsson's Hav & Mar restaurant, in New York City's Chelsea neighborhood.​

Born and raised in Ethiopia as the youngest of six siblings, Fariyal's culinary passion was deeply influenced by her mother's exceptional cooking and the vibrant markets of her childhood. She fondly recalls assisting her mother in the kitchen and cherishing the communal family meals that brought everyone together—Fariyal felt an undeniable pull toward the culinary arts. Her culinary journey led her to esteemed positions, including a role at the renowned Noma in Copenhagen, where she honed her skills under Chef René Redzepi. ​

At Hav & Mar, Fariyal seamlessly weaves her Ethiopian heritage into the seafood-centric menu, emphasizing sustainability and thoughtful sourcing. The restaurant reflects a commitment to diversity, with a leadership team comprising women of color and collaborations with Black and BIPOC winemakers and farmers.

Beyond her culinary endeavors, Fariyal is dedicated to fostering inclusive kitchen environments and mentoring aspiring chefs, particularly women of color. Her leadership and advocacy have positioned her as a trailblazer in the industry, inspiring others to pursue their passions and challenge traditional norms. ​

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In this special episode of On The Pass, we're joined by Chef Ryan Cole, the visionary chef and co-owner of Salsify at The Roundhouse in Cape Town, South Africa. Recently recognized by 50 Best Discovery and acclaimed for its innovative approach to modern South African cuisine, Salsify was everything we could have hoped for—and more—for our first proper sit-down meal in Cape Town.

Set within a historic landmark overlooking the breathtaking views of Camps Bay, Salsify blends heritage with culinary artistry, offering a dining experience that feels both rooted in tradition and refreshingly contemporary. Ryan and his team craft dishes that are as thoughtful as they are delicious, pairing them with an exquisite selection of wines—all delivered with the warm, unmistakable touch of South African hospitality.

In our conversation, Ryan shares his creative philosophy, and what it means to shape the future of South African fine dining.

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Many of my most unforgettable hospitality and culinary experiences have been meaningful not just because of their quality, creativity, or service, but because they fostered a deeper connection to the local culture, people, and traditions. These experiences go beyond excellence—they tell a story, evoke emotion, and create lasting impressions. This is exactly what our next guest has dedicated his career to curating, preserving, and championing.

Joining us on this episode of On The Pass is Laurent Gardinier, President of Relais & Châteaux, a prestigious global association of independently owned luxury hotels and restaurants. With nearly 580 properties across 65 countries, Relais & Châteaux offers travelers an immersive way to experience the world—rooted in sustainability, heritage, and authentic local culture.

Laurent is not only a visionary leader in hospitality, but also a hotelier and restaurateur himself. He co-owns Domaine Les Crayères, a luxurious 20-room hotel nestled in France's Champagne region, and Le Taillevent, a two-Michelin-starred fine-dining institution in Paris. His deep industry expertise, passion for excellence, and commitment to sustainability shape his leadership as he steers Relais & Châteaux into an exciting new era.

In our conversation, Laurent shares insights into the evolving landscape of hospitality, what makes the Relais & Châteaux collection so unique, and his ambitious vision for a more sustainable future. Now, let's dive into this inspiring discussion with Laurent Gardinier.

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In Episode 6 of Effects of Change, Jamila and Gabriel sit down with Fawn Weaver, entrepreneur, author, and spirits mogul, CEO of Grant Sidney Inc. and owner of Uncle Nearest Premium Whiskey. They discuss leading as your authentic self. Jamila and Gabriel close out the series by reflecting on everything they've learned through these conversations, the progress that has been made, and the work that still lies ahead.

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In Episode 5 of Effects of Change, Jamila and Gabriel sit down with Clare Reichenbach, CEO of the James Beard Foundation, and Tim Brooke-Webb, Managing Director of the World's 50 Best Restaurants, Bars, and Hotels platform. They discuss awards, recognition, and the importance of these platforms as vehicles for discovery and community building.

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In Episode 4 of Effects of Change, Jamila and Gabriel sit down with Melina Shannon-DiPietro, Managing Director of MAD, the nonprofit founded by chef René Redzepi of restaurant Noma, and Juliane Caillouette Noble, Managing Director of the Sustainable Restaurant Association. Together, they discuss sustainability, the supply chain, and the broader impact of how and what we eat.

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In Episode 3 of Effects of Change, Jamila and Gabriel sit down with Daniel Humm, chef and owner of the iconic New York fine-dining establishment Eleven Madison Park, and Elena Reygadas, The World's Best Female Chef 2023 and chef-owner of Rosetta in Mexico City. They discuss philosophical change and the courage to cook the food they truly want to create.

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In Episode 2 of Effects of Change, Jamila and Gabriel sit down with Sean Sherman—award-winning chef, educator, author, and activist—and Rupa Bhattacharya, Executive Director of the Strategic Initiatives Group at The Culinary Institute of America. Together, they discuss heritage, culture, and education through the lens of food.

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Jamila and Gabriel kick off this series opener by introducing Effects of Change, a Bon Appétit and On The Pass original six-part series. The series explores progress and features intimate conversations with some of the most influential change-makers in the restaurant and hospitality industry.

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How do you build a great partnership? And how does that partnership foster a strong company culture—one that extends beyond your guests to include your entire team? Our next guests have mastered this balance, creating a thriving hospitality group while continuing to expand their portfolio of offerings.

In this episode of On The Pass, we're joined by two culinary visionaries who have helped shape San Francisco's dining scene—Thomas McNaughton and Ryan Pollnow, partners and co-executive chefs of Flour + Water Hospitality Group. Renowned for their dedication to craft, sustainability, and culture-driven leadership, Thomas and Ryan oversee an impressive portfolio, including Flour + Water Pasta Shop and Penny Roma in the Mission District, as well as Flour + Water Pizzeria and Flour + Water Foods.

Together, they pull back the curtain on their dynamic partnership and share the philosophies that guide their decision-making—whether it's building a thriving restaurant culture, championing regenerative agriculture, or redefining what it means to make high-quality, organic pasta accessible to all. We also dive into their approach to leadership, the evolution of Flour + Water, and how their team continues to push the boundaries of Italian-inspired cuisine.

And as a special treat, On The Pass listeners get 15% off Flour + Water Foods' organic dried pasta with promo code ONTHEPASS (one use per customer). Trust us, their regeneratively sourced, organic pasta is something truly special—you don't want to miss out!

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