Many Trinitarians claim the Trinity is "biblical". This episode presents two reasons why that claim is faulty:

1. The Trinitarian methodology - how they arrive at believing that the one God is multi-persons - is not biblical.

2. The language used, in fact needed, to describe the Trinity and the "deity of Christ is is not biblical.

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In this current podcast we discuss another HIGH cost to payfor any deity of Christ interpretation of Scripture.  All deity of Christ claims not only dishonor the Father, but they also dishonor the Christ, the man Jesus of Nazareth, the Jew who was born in Bethlehem some 2000 years ago.  In fact, all deity of Christ claims in the end deny that the human person Jesus Christ ever existed.

Deity of Christ Interpretations of the Bible Dishonor the Father, the Only True God

If Jesus is God, then God the Father is not the one true God. The claim that “Jesus is God” becomes the main building block used by humans to construct a multi-person god. If Jesus is one member of a multi-person (or a Triune god) then the multi-person god is the one God, and the Father is not.

Mainstream Christians agree that there is one God.  “Weare monotheists. We believe in one God”. But for mainstream Christians, the one God is made up of three persons. 

Either the Father, a singular self, is the one true God, or a multi-person god is the one God.

But if the Father is the one true God, then the claim that “Jesus is God” (that God is multi-persons) is an attempt to denigrate the only true God -- the Father. What deity of Christ and Trinitarian interpreters are doing is attempting to put another god on the face of and in the place of our God and Father.  

The HIGH cost of any “deity of Christ” interpretations is an attempt to claim that the Father is not the one, the only true God.  Christians need to decide: who is your God. Either the Trinity, or the Father alone. Your God can’t be both.

For full text of the podcast, see here:

https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2025/03/the-high-cost-of-deity-of-christ.html

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In previous episodes, we saw that no one in the Bible - notJesus, not Moses, not Isaiah or any other prophet, not Peter, not Paul or any other apostle – no one proclaimed or described that God is three in one.  Rather, we saw specifically that God is the Father alone, the God of our Lord Jesus Christ.

We looked at Paul’s description of God and the Lord Jesus Christ in Ephesians 1.To Paul, God is not the Trinity, but the Father alone. And, Paul says the LordJesus Christ has a God. The Lord Jesus Christ’s God is the Father. The LordJesus Christ is not God since he has a God and Jesus is someone other than God.

Previous episodes:If the Bible is Right, God is NOT a Trinity (Part 1) https://youtu.be/S1-qBYVrkdU

If the Bible is Right, God is NOT a Trinity (Part 2) https://youtu.be/2x81JF9sKqc

It is simple reading comprehension. When reading the Bible, nowhere is God a Triune being. I want to make one more simple reading example in the Bible where, in this case, we will see if the Apostle Peter believed that God was a Trinity, or that the Lord Jesus Christ was God.

Through simple reading comprehension, we will be able understand that the Apostle Peter’s God was not the Trinity, and the Lord Jesus Christ was not Peter’s God.

Peter DID NOT declare that “God is a Trinity”.

Peter DID NOT declare that one must believe that God is a Trinity.

 Peter DID declare that someone else other than the Lord Jesus Christ is God, that is, that the Lord Jesus Christ is not God.

 Peter DID declare that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God.

We look at a couple of corroborating statements from Peter in the Gospels and one of his epistles, but focus on Peter’s Pentecost sermon in Acts Chapter 2. 

 Acts 2:2224

"Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with powerful deeds, wonders, and miraculous signs that God performed among you throughhim, just as you yourselves know– 23this man, who was handed over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge ofGod, you executed by nailing him to a cross at the hands of Gentiles. 24 But God raised him up…

In this text, is God triune?  Is Jesus God?

Acts 2:30-33

“So then, because he was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him with an oath to seat one of his descendants on his throne, 31 David by foreseeing this spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was neither abandonedto Hades, nor did his body experience decay. 32 This Jesus God raised up, and we are all witnesses of it. 33 So then, exalted to the right hand of God, and having received the promise of the holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out what you both see and hear.”

Acts 2:36

Therefore let all the house of Israel know beyond a doubt that God has made this Jesus whom you crucified both Lord and Christ."

Mark 8:29, He asked them, "But who do you say that I am?" Peter answered him, "You are the Christ."

Luke 9:20, Then he said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" Peter answered, "The Christ of God."

Matt. 16:16, Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,the Son of the living God." (Mat 16:16 NET)

1 Peter 1:3,

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By his great mercy he gave us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

1 Peter 20-21

He (Christ) was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was manifested in these last times for your sake. 21 Through him you now trust in God, who raised him from the dead and gave him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.

Peter never describes God as being triune, and never declares that Jesus is God. 

If the Bible is right, God is not a Trinity.

If Peter is right, God is not a Trinity.

If your God is the Trinity, you have a different God than Peter.

00:00  God is Never a Trinity in the Bible.

03:14  God is always referred to with singular pronouns.HE did great things through Jesus Christ.  The Lord Jesus Christ is someone else, a different “person and being” thanGod.  

04:18  Typical Responses from the Previous podcast,and why they fall short. No one showed a place in the Bible where God is described or revealed to be a Trinity. Trinitarian apologists construct their god. 

Matthew 28:19, John 10:30, Genesis 1:26?

06:26  So much confusion in Trinitarian responses. Theimmediate “default” is to go to a few verses that Trinitarians think show that “Jesus is God”.

10:14  Trinitarian scholars who describe that theTrinity is not revealed in the Bible. “Can’t just rifle through the pages of the Bible in forming the doctrine (of the Trinity)”

11:55  Assembling the Trinity, the methodology is faulty. No one in the Bible does this.

14:08  Similarity between Trinitarian and modern “woke”usage of pronouns.  Denying reality and insisting on using a pronoun that does not apply.

16:07  Who to believe: Trinitarians or the Bible?  Stick with the Bible.

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Other RelatedPodcasts:

If the Bibleis Right, God is NOT a Trinity (Part 1)

https://youtu.be/S1-qBYVrkdU

Is the Trinity in the Bible? If So, Where?

https://youtu.be/POVaZX3urdc

Trinity, Preferred Pronouns: He/Him (Woke-ism in Trinitarian Thought and Language)

https://youtu.be/VRFJbSlC0-E

God is He, not They (one minute short)

https://youtube.com/shorts/f9f0-9NwgDk

In the Bible, God is never a trinity. Neither in Hebrew

God is never declared to be triune by anyone in the Bible: not by Moses, the prophets, Jesus or the apostles. No one in the Bible ever mentions the “mystery” about the Triune nature (persons) of God.  The Bible never records any opposition to the Triune nature of God being proclaimed – because no one in the Bible proclaimed God as triune. The claim that God is “three-in-one” comes from centuries after the time of Jesus.

As a sample of the Biblical view of God, we read some of Ephesians 1.

Who is God in the passage? Never the Trinity.

Note the singular pronouns used of God. God is never more than one self.

Note the differentiation between God and the Lord (Adon) Jesus Christ.

Note that the Lord Jesus Christ has a God. The Lord Jesus Christ’s God is the Father.

For the Apostle Paul, the one God was not the Trinity. The one God was the Father, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ (cf. 1 Corinthians 8:6).

Other related podcasts:

Is the Trinity in the Bible? If so, Where?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POVaZX3urdc

How and When was the Trinity Revealed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HaqhjicWv8

The Trinity is NOT Revealed in the Bible (one minute short)
https://studio.youtube.com/video/r8uOyHDqUvY/edit

The Mystery of the Trinity: Solved!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPK-_kVHnB0&t=498s

In this episode we explain how the deity-of-Christ interpretation of John’s Gospel is wrong.

Three, Yea verily Four Keys to Understanding John’s Gospel

1.      

“Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence

The original target audience of the Gospel of John was Israelites in the Diaspora. John wrote to convince and help them to believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.  See more below.

2.      In John’s Gospel, Jesus declares that he is a man who told the truth which he heard from God.

John 8:40, “but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told

Jesus differentiates himself from God. Jesus is a man, not a god-man, not one person of God who is incarnated in a human nature.  Jesus states that he is a human being, a man who declares the truth that heard from someone else, specifically, from God.

3.      In John’s Gospel, Jesus declared that the Father is the only true God.

John 17:1-3 “Father… this is eternal life, that they know

The God that was speaking and working in and through the man Jesus was the Father.

Christology of John is agency, not incarnation. 

4.      John is an Israelite, writing to Israelites. He is not writing originally to Gentiles.

a.      Metaphors, figurative language.

John 10:6 (context is the thief vs. the shepherd), “This

John 16:25, "I have said these things to you in figures of speech.”

Come into the world, come down from heaven, “This is the bread that has come down from heaven” (6:50) “the

“The baptism of John, was it from heaven or from man” (Mar 11:30) means “Was John's baptism of heavenly or of human origin?”  (Mar 11:30)

b.      “Jews” means “Judeans”. “He came to his own, but his own received him not”. Samaritans, and Israelites in

c.      “world” does not mean

Resources:

In the Gospel of John the “Jews” are Judeans, Not All “Jews”

https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2022/02/in-gospel-of-john-jews-are-judeans-not.html

The “Greeks” in John’s Gospel are Greek Speaking Israelites, not Gentiles

https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2022/03/the-greeks-hellenists-in-gospel-of-john.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw44JRTIiV0

A brief description of four main beliefs of Biblical Unitarians.

1. God Is One, the Father.

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2. Jesus Is the Messiah, the Son of the Living God

3. The Holy Spirit Is the Spirit of God

We believe in God (the Father), in Jesus the human Son of God, and in the spirit of God.  A “triad”, not a “Trinity”. A Trinity

4. Authority of Scripture

                The Bible, not men’s speculations or tradition, is the ultimate authority for belief and practice.

Examples of Resources (there are many more:

The Bible 😊

Podcasts:

Books:

The Trinity: Christianity’s Self-inflicted Wound (Buzzard)

The Restitution: Biblical Proof Jesus is Not God (Zarley)

The God of Jesus (Chandler)

Why Some Christians Do Not Believe in the Trinity (Maready)

Little Known Facts about the Trinity (Kohl)

Websites/Blogs:

Trinity Delusion

Biblical Unitarian

Land and Bible https://landandbible.blogspot.com/

Let the Truth Come Out (Troy Salinger)

One God Worship

For full written text see here:

https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2025/01/agency-in-bible.html

When God gave words to his messengers to speak, it was God speaking.

When God gave authority and power to his

When the messenger was at the scene, it was to be understood that God was

In authorized functional status, the messenger was equal to his sender.

These realities are known as the principle of agency. In certain ways the messenger “is” the sender since the person’s agent is to be regarded as the sender himself.

The Word (the human person Christ Jesus) was God (the Father, who sent Jesus).

The Gospel of John declares that Jesus was sent (by God) over 40 times. The statements below made by Jesus in the Gospel of John show how the sent one (Jesus) is to be regarded as the One

·        The Father who sent me has himself testified about me.

·        This is the deed Godrequires– to believe in the one whom He sent.

·        He whom God has sent speaks the words of God

·        He who receives me receives the one who sent me…

·        He who sees me sees the Father…

·        I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.

·         I do nothing by my own authority…

·        I can do nothing by my own power…

·        For just as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son also to have life in himself and He

·        I seek to do not my own will but the will of Him who sent me…

·        The works that the Father has given me to complete, the very works that I am doing, testify on my behalf that the Father has sent me…

·        The words you hear are not mine, but the Father's who sent me…

·        I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does His works.

The key error of the "pre-incarnate" Christ understanding of John 8:58 is in translating Jesus’ statement about Abraham in the past when it refers to Abraham coming to be in the future.