Mary is joined by Norm Ornstein as they talk about how Trump’s Iran escalation spirals into chaos—gas prices surge, markets drop, and GOP leaders fall in line. Is this reckless war a distraction as democracy hangs in the balance?

Norm Ornstein is a veteran political analyst who studies how the U.S. government and elections function, and he’s become a prominent critic of political extremism and institutional breakdown in Washington. He is also an emeritus scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and a contributing editor at The Atlantic

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