Abu and Leo are joined by LEGO product designer Mike Psiaki and Oscar-winning production designer Patrice Vermette to discuss the LEGO® Icons Dune Atreides Royal Ornithopter and all things Dune. They get in to everything from the challenges of ornithopter design to the best food in Budapest and the secret trick behind every LEGO set.

This episode is in partnership with the LEGO Group.

This episode contains very light SPOILERS for Denis Villeneuve's first film.

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