Reproductive health care touches multiple decades and events in a patient’s lifetime. So why not get care from a provider who was there when you got your first period, sprained your ankle in college sports, or was there when you gave birth? Bev and Jonas talk with the amazing Dr. Robin Wallace about providing abortions as a family physician and why more medical specialties should do the same. Based on years practicing in multiple states before and after Dobbs, she helps untangle the complex web of policies and paperwork that make it harder for medical professionals to offer abortion to patients already coming to them for other care.

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As Dr. Ghazaleh Moayedi declares, no one should have pain with IUD insertion. In this wild and wildly instructive episode, Bev and Jonas break down the actual steps of the infamously painful procedure and then dive into solutions with Dr. Moayedi, an OB-Gyn whose reputation as a provider of the “Best IUD insertion in Texas” leads to a mini gameshow challenge to rate pain relief options. This conversation is a huge win for anyone who has or wants an intrauterine device for control of their reproductive health, especially patients who have ever felt gaslit by providers about their lived experience.

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It’s no wonder that the podcast The Retrievals was launched by true crime favorites Serial Productions and the NYT. As host Susan Burton tells Bev and Jonas on Outlawed, the first season of the hit show underscored how women’s pain in IVF treatments intersected with a criminal investigation. The original perpetrator was stopped, but what was uncovered about how pain is perceived and treated or ignored affects every aspect of reproductive healthcare. In this two episode series on pain with IUD insertion, Bev and Jonas make full use of Susan Burton’s investigative journalist’s practiced lens to examine the complex dynamics between doctor and patient, pain and the perception of pain, and how doctors and patients can use language and take actions together for patient comfort. 

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Season 3 is coming your way with new episodes every week starting September 10th! We start the season talking about pain: interviewing Susan Burton (host and producer of The Retrievals) and Dr. Ghazeleh Moayedi, founder of Pegasus Health Justice center. Together we dive into the topic of pain and how we can better address it. We’ll have a series about the challenges of training Ob-Gyn’s in the wake of the Dobbs decision. We talk with trans rights super-hero - Chase Strangio of the ACLU- about the overlap between the attacks on trans health and abortion rights. And we’ll continue to interview folks telling us the stories and explaining the science of abortion bans in the US.

Enjoy today's guest episode from Bodies, produced and hosted by Allison Behringer.

The overturning of Roe v. Wade has severely restricted how doctors can access training in abortion care and it's already having a devastating ripple effect on patients seeking all kinds of reproductive care. Two medical residents in abortion-restricted states fight for training and for the future health of their patients. Plus, the centuries-long battle over who gets access to abortion training in the first place. Transcript at kcrw.com/bodies.

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While we're taking a break this summer we're excited to share some re-runs and episodes from other podcast friends. Today's episode takes a deep dive into the common 1st trimester clinical conundrum of pregnancy of unknown location. Listen along as Nick and Fei talk with Dr. Erin Cleary about pregnancy of unknown location and ectopic pregnancy.

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The stories out of Texas are numerous and heartbreaking. In our third episode of Outlawed, we’ll meet two people from Texas. One is a high-risk OB-gyn physician who cares for some of the sickest patients and pregnancies. She talks about the impact of the Texas abortion ban (SB8) and Dobbs on the healthcare she can provide people and explains why these laws lead to substandard care. The second person we will meet is Lisa, a patient who had to flee Texas after receiving a devastating diagnosis during her routine second trimester ultrasound.

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As we reflect on the 4 year anniversary of the Dobbs decision, we wanted to go back and share our very first episode of the podcast from Fall of 2024. 

We introduce you to our hosts, Dr. Beverly Gray and Dr. Jonas Swartz, along with a woman named Sally, a nurse who answers the phone at an abortion clinic and is the first point of contact for those seeking care in North Carolina.

Whether you’ve broached a topic like abortion with Uncle Bob or are about to, we want to hear from you! Call our new hotline: 919-442-8101.  That’s 919-442-8101. Power on! (The voicemail will cut you off at 3 min, just FYI. Feel free to leave a second message.)

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Summer’s here and it’s time for Outlawed’s season 2 finale! Bev and Jonas reflect on the podcast’s original goals of making it easier to have those tough conversations about abortion, and highlight some of the best advice from show guests so far to spark your confidence at poolside gatherings and backyard barbecues. Plus, hear what we have in store for the September launch of season 3. 

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Many people we know and love are adopted or have adopted, but where adoption fits into a reproductive justice framework is nuanced and complex. Dr. Gretchen Sisson, a researcher at Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health (ANSIRH) at UCSF, has been studying adoption systems and interviewing birth mothers for over a decade. In this moving conversation she dispels myths about abortion, adoption, and the choice to parent, and advocates for an eyes-wide-open approach to positive change. 

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