Jessica is the SVP at Refine Labs, but before she landed this position and recent promotion, Jessica spent her lockdown working for two different companies full-time! Tuning in, you’ll hear all about her experience of working two jobs for 12 to 15 hours a day ranging from how she managed her time all the way to what eventually made her decide to work only one job. Jessica tells us what should make you consider taking on two jobs, how she would handle one of her employees wanting to do so, how her old employees reacted when they eventually found out (two years later,) and why slacking off is not an option! We also discuss the ownership that companies think they have over their employees and why it’s a thing of the past before delving into when overemployment becomes an issue. Finally, she tells us what her ultimate career-based goal is and how she plans on achieving it. 

 

Key Points From This Episode:

• Introducing today’s guest, Jessica Williams. 
• Jessica tells us what her ultimate goal is.
• What her new promotion means for her. 
• Why Jessica doesn’t see much of a difference between SVP and Chief People Officer.
• A brief overview of her professional background and how she wound up at Refine Labs. 
• How Jessica juggled two jobs for an entire year and why she is not a slacker.
• How her employers reacted when they found out she was working two jobs at once.
• The concept of ownership that companies have over employees. 
• What made Jessica decide to stop working two full-time jobs. 
• Under what circumstances people should consider having two jobs. 
• The ethical issue with having two jobs and some potential issues with overemployment. 
• What Jessica would do if one of her employees was working a second job. 
• Why you need to lie to your employers when you are taking on two jobs. 
• How to manage time while working two full-time jobs. 

 

Tweetables:

 

“I did exactly what they wanted me to do and exceeded their expectations. I just was doing it twice.” — Jessica Williams [0:13:20]

 

“Being in a digital space now, [employers] don't own my time. I am doing a task for them. I did the task. The thought of ownership, I think those days are over. If that's the way you think about your employees that I own 40 hours a week from you, you're so out of the loop”. — Jessica Williams [0:15:10]

 

“People have the problem [with overemployment] when I say how much money I made. That's when people have the biggest problem. I say how much money I made because I want people to know that there is freedom out there. You can go get it, and you could be successful.” — Jessica Williams [0:22:54]

 

“I am in control of what happens to me. I will decide what will happen to me. When I decided I'm going to work two jobs, it was because I'm going to get to a point where I am financially free enough that I can do what's best for me. Taking that ownership pisses people off because they're like, ‘You can't do that.’ ‘Yes, I can. Yes, I did.’” — Jessica Williams [0:27:02]

 

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

 

Jessica Williams on LinkedIn

Jessica's Overemployed LinkedIn Post

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