On this episode Mike and Jason discuss Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals between the Indiana Pacers and New York Knicks. They touch on the lack of defensive intensity in the series and whether that is a result of the Pacers style of play. Next, they look at the performances of Karl-Anthony Towns and Tyrese Haliburton, and how their contributions affect their teams' chances of success. Mike and Jason analyze the psychological factors affecting teams down 3-1in the playoffs and whether the Knicks or Wolves can extend their series past Game 5. Finally, the discussion turns to the MVP performance of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander in the Western Conference Finals and why the Wolves need more from Anthony Edwards. The conversation culminates in predictions for the upcoming NBA Finals, highlighting the contrasting styles of play between the potential finalists, Indy and OKC.

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