The 25th edition of “The Triple Double” with Rob Brost, Bolingbrook (IL) High School Boys’ Basketball Head Coach. Rob, Mike, & Jason hit on three basketball topics in each episode of “The Triple Double”.

1. What are the keys to getting the most out your best player?
2. What part of a high school coach's job is dramatically underestimated?
3. What question do you wish more coaches would ask you...as opposed to the ones you get asked all the time?

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Matt Elkin is in his second season with the Stanford men's basketball program and his first as assistant coach. Elkin spent 2024-25 as assistant recruiting coordinator at Stanford before spending one season at Columbia in 2025-26 as an assistant coach.

Elkin arrived at Stanford in 2024 after spending the previous four seasons at Yale as director of basketball operations. Concurrent with his role at Yale, Elkin has served as an assistant coach with Team USA with the under-18 team. He helped lead the American delegation to a gold medal at the 2022 World Maccabiah Games. Matt is also the Executive Director of the Jewish Coaches Association.

Prior to his time in New Haven, Elkin served as an assistant coach at the Windward School in Los Angeles, where he helped the program to a 53-15 record over two seasons. He also spent two seasons at Vermont Academy as a varsity assistant coach from 2016-18.

Elkin began his coaching career as a student manager at the University of Wisconsin and later served as head manager and student assistant for two seasons at Division III Edgewood College in Madison, Wisconsin. While earning a Master’s degree in Sports Leadership from Northeastern in 2016, Elkin served as the graduate manager for the men’s basketball team for two seasons.

On this episode Mike & Matt discuss his remarkable journey from coaching youth basketball to achieving his dream role at a prestigious institution like Stanford. Throughout our conversation, Matt emphasizes the importance of fostering enjoyment and passion in the game, a principle instilled in him by his early coaches. We delve into his experiences at Yale, where he contributed to three Ivy League championships, and how those formative years shaped his coaching philosophy. Elkin discusses the challenges and opportunities presented by the evolving landscape of college basketball, particularly with respect to the recruitment process amidst the pressures of the NIL era. Matt shares his commitment to nurturing student-athletes, ensuring they thrive both on the court and in their academic pursuits, all while upholding the values that define Stanford's storied legacy in athletics and education.

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On this episode Mike and Jason break down the 2026 NBA Finals following Game 3 between the San Antonio Spurs and New York Knicks.

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Andy Stark is entering his 5th season as the Head Men’s Basketball Coach at D2 D'Youville University. The Saints advanced to the East Coast Conference Semifinals in 2026 and continued the program’s upward trajectory since Stark took over the program in June of 2022.

Stark previously served one season on the Baylor men's basketball staff under Scott Drew. During his time with the Bears, Stark helped the team to a 27-7 record, winning the 2021 Big 12 Championship and making it to the NCAA March Madness Round of 32 as a No. 1 seed.

Prior to his time with the Bears, Stark served as an assistant coach at D3 Penn State-Behrend and at D2 Gannon University. He began his coaching career at Stevenson University in Owings Mills, Md. as a graduate assistant for the men's basketball team after having served as the head student assistant at St. Bonaventure while earning a bachelor's degree in journalism and mass communications.

On this episode Mike & Andy discuss the transformative experiences that shaped his coaching philosophy, emphasizing the significance of nurturing relationships with players. Stark addresses the trials and tribulations of his initial coaching years, acknowledging the steep learning curve associated with transitioning to a head coach. Stark explains how he learned to balance rigorous coaching with compassion, asserting that fostering trust is paramount in building a successful team culture. His narrative underscores the importance of patience and celebrating incremental progress, particularly in a program that is in the nascent stages of development. Through his insights, Stark illustrates the complexities and rewards of coaching, particularly in the context of leading a team through challenges while striving for excellence. His commitment to creating a positive environment, where players can thrive academically and athletically, is evident as he discusses the roles of mentorship and community in shaping the identities of young athletes.

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Nick Lorensen just completed his second season on the La Salle University Men’s Basketball Staff as a graduate assistant under Fran Dunphy in year one and Darris Nichols in year two. Lorensen previously spent time on the sidelines as a coaching intern at Queens University (N.C.). Prior to his time at Queens, Lorensen had a focus on the media side of sports, with positions including scouting at The Portal Report, working as a Communications & Marketing Intern for the Bowie BaySox, and working as a communications intern for UMBC.

On this episode Mike and Nick discuss his initial fascination with the sport datingback to his childhood. He shares how his family, particularly his father, fostered an early love for basketball that eventually led him to engage with the game on a deeper level, despite not playing in high school. Through various interactions, including managing social media accounts for basketball programs, Nick cultivated a unique perspective on the sport, which he parlayed into a coaching career. The conversation further explores the evolving landscape of college basketball, particularly the impact of social media and the transfer portal on recruitment and player retention. Nick emphasizes the importance of building relationships, both with players and within the coaching community, as a key component of success in the coaching profession. He reflects on the challenges faced by coaches in today's environment, where financial considerations often overshadow personal connections, and offers insights into maintaining a player-first philosophy amid these changes. the importance of relationships in coaching, emphasizing how genuine connections with players and staff can significantly influence team dynamics and individual growth. Finally, Nick reflects on the joy derived from witnessing athletes develop into better individuals, underscoring the transformative power of coaching.

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On this episode Mike and Jason preview the 2026 NBA Finals between the San Antonio Spurs and New York Knicks.

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Kip Ioane just completed his second season as the Head Boys’ Basketball Coach at South Salem (OR) High School where he has led the Saxons to a 34-19 record . Ioane previously served as the head coach of the men’s basketball team at Willamette University in Salem, Oregon for 14 seasons and as an assistant for 8 seasons.

Ioane also attended Willamette as a student-athlete and played for the Bearcats from 1997-98 through 2000-01. He was a two-year captain who earned a total of four letters while playing at Willamette.

Ioane's Teams Of Men Character Development program has garnered national recognition for its work in developing a healthy version of manhood with teams, coaches, and players around the country.

On this episode Mike and Kip discuss the transformative impact of the "Teams of Men" program on high school basketball coaching and player development. We explore how the integration of emotional fluency, vulnerability, and authentic relationships fosters a culture of trust among players, which, in turn, enhances their performance on the court. Kip shares the importance of creating a supportive environment where young men can engage in meaningful conversations about personal growth, thus challenging traditional notions of masculinity in sports. Throughout the discussion, we emphasize that prioritizing character development and emotional intelligence is not merely beneficial but essential for achieving sustained success in both athletics and life. By the episode's conclusion, we aim to inspire coaches to embrace this holistic approach, recognizing that the foundation of winning extends beyond the scoreboard to the cultivation of resilient, well-rounded individuals.

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Get ready to take some notes as you listen to this episode with Kip Ioane, Head Boys’ Basketball Coach at South Salem High School in the state of Oregon.

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Dr. Daniel Jacobsen is the founder of MindFit, helping coaches and parents build mentally tough athletes through proven sport psychology training. Daniel has spent 8 years working directly with high school, collegiate, and elite athletes not in a lab, not in an office, but on the court, in the locker room, and in the high-pressure moments that define seasons.

On this episode Mike & Daniel discuss the impact of mental training on athletic performance. Jacobsen emphasizes the significance of meditation within teams, citing historical examples from the championship-winning squads of Phil Jackson, who employed meditation to enhance team cohesion and individual self-awareness. Jacobsen outlines the transformative process athletes undergo, not only in their sports but also in their personal lives, as they learn to prioritize their objectives and cultivate a diversified identity beyond athletics. Furthermore, he discusses the keys to achieving flow states in performance, highlighting the essential stages of struggle, release, flow, and recovery. Jacobson's insights provide invaluable guidance for athletes and coaches alike, aiming to foster both peak performance and personal development.

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On this episode Mike and Jason discuss the Cavs' dismal performance against the Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals. They break down the Cavs' defensive issues, the James Harden experience, Kenny Atkinson, Evan Mobley, and whether Donovan Mitchell can be the best guy on a title team (no). Then they look into all the potential strings the Cavs could pull to change up the roster including LeBron and Giannis. Finally, they look ahead to tonight's Game 6 between the Spurs and Thunder.

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Maureen Hirt is the Women’s Basketball Head Coach at Denison University where she led the Big Red to the D3 National Championship in 2026. On their way to the title, the Big Red took down two unbeaten squads and became the first NCAC team to win the national championship since DePauw in 2013.In her 4 seasons at Denison Hirt has compiled a 75-36 overall record

Hirt came to Denison after spending the previous season as the Associate Head Coach at Oberlin College, her third year on staff as an assistant for the Yeowomen. During her second year at Oberlin, Hirt was one of 10 Tara VanDerveer fellows across the country to be a part of the 2020 cohort for the Women’s Sports Foundation’s advancement of women in coaching.

Hirt is the Co-Founder and Owner of Ohio Champion Basketball (OCB), a basketball skills and performance training company in Cincinnati, Ohio. Since November of 2015, OCB has trained athletes from the middle school to professional level. She began her coaching career as the Guardian Angels eighth grade boys’ head basketball coach, a position she held for four seasons from October 2014-February 2018.

Maureen played her college basketball at Kenyon College where she was two-time team captain and the 2014 North Coast Athletic Conference Player of the Year. She was a four-time All-NCAC player and three-time first-team all-conference selection, and is still the school's all-time leading scorer with 1,819 career points. After her senior season, she was recognized as a D3 Women’s News Third-Team All-American and first-team all-region performer.

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You’ll want to grab pen and paper before you listen to this episode with Maureen Hirt , Women’s Basketball Head Coach at Denison University, 2026 D3 National Champions.

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