We're honored to host Dr. Dave Engle—Regents Professor Emeritus at Oklahoma State University and a pioneer in fire ecology. From wildland firefighting in New Mexico to building OSU's fire program with just two torches and a vision, Dave shares an incredible career rooted in science, stewardship, and some good ol' fashioned trial and error.

We dive into the origins of patch-burn grazing, the challenges of managing the Cross Timbers, and why eastern redcedar became his lifelong nemesis. Dr. Engle reflects on the research that changed policy, perceptions, and the trajectory of conservation in the Great Plains. If you care about fire, land, or legacy, this episode is a must-listen.

Resources:

- Dave Engel, Ph.D.

- OSU NREM Patch Burning Research

- OK-FIRE

- The Prairie Project - Patch Burn Grazing Research