Was the tweet Garage-Band JBP being himself or part of an orchestrated pattern to reset the Jordan Peterson brand from Fox News commentator to someone the Left is willing to listen to? I lay out the two theories that aren't necessarily incompatible with each other. I also offer a perspective on religion and politics to avoid bringing heaven and hell into our secular frame.

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Nick got cancer young and the treatment is almost worse than the disease. When you're sidelined by illness you can only watch so much Netflix and Nick found Jordan Peterson videos and got a chance to talk with him. He also found CS Lewis. Because of his illness he asks "what if you can't carry your cross up that hill?"

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In the Abolition of Man CS Lewis shows that the English teachers aren't teaching English but smuggling in cheap philosophy that robs their students of what most matters in life. Dallas Willard sees that. Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris and Bret Weinstein are struggling with trying to figure it out.

Vancouver 2 https://youtu.be/BtkwF5qA6uE 

Dallas Willard Veritas Forum Worldviews https://youtu.be/X6hwsG7AUZ0 

The Abolition of Man Audible https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Abolition-of-Man-The-Great-Divorce-Audiobook/B002V1NHYC 

Abolition of Man Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Abolition-Man-C-S-Lewis-ebook/dp/B002BXH5RU 

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CS Lewis argues in the Abolition of Man that we find meaning and beauty. Materialist/Naturalism insinuates that these are mere feelings on their own.

Unbelievable https://youtu.be/mongL_2KMGg

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Ron Dart sees similarities between Jordan Peterson and Erasmus, the "Prince of the Humanists". As we talked I began to think he's more like Luther. The Internet connection wasn't great so the sound dropped in and out. We did the best we could. Next time we talk we'll discuss Peterson and Francis Schaeffer.

Erasmus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasmus 

Ron Dart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Dart 

Ron Dart's book on Erasmus https://www.amazon.com/Erasmus-Wild-Bird-Ron-Dart-ebook/dp/B0796NGGKP 

Ron Dart on JBP https://youtu.be/PJ1omx4AllY

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We are always negotiating the now (secular) and the eternal (ideal). Benjamin struggled with Peterson's tweet. His hero has fallen. Has his idol fallen? John Calvin says our hearts are idol factories. I bring in Douglas Murray and John McWhorter too.

https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1048320826376740865

Node in a Network commentary on Benjamin https://youtu.be/XxWzWh0jXKs

Owen Benjamin's Oct 6 commentary https://youtu.be/PbRMX6TKtZg

Douglas Murray with Rebel Wisdom https://youtu.be/MXS8qkHlhrs

John McWhorter on anti-racism as religion https://youtu.be/TJARKukC5Zo

Obama and the arc of history quote https://www.thedailybeast.com/obama-loves-martin-luther-kings-great-quotebut-he-uses-it-incorrectly

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How does God end our rebellion? Through brutal violence and bloodshed? Is he a tyrant like a Babylonian king?

In Daniel we begin to see how God works, from below.

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John (JFK) is a musician. [email protected]. We talked Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson and a musician's life.

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In anticipation of CS Lewis' the Abolition of man Matt Dillahunty helps clarify how he understands morality and reason. Morality is in pursuit of a goal, but is "wellbeing" specific enough to function in that way? Peterson says no. Almost all of these examples will be taken up by Lewis

Matt Dillahunty the Superiority of Secular Ethics https://youtu.be/BjbdWGre370

Vancouver 2 https://youtu.be/BtkwF5qA6uE

CS Lewis Doodle the Grand Miracle https://youtu.be/Uv4kx2QP4UM

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John Van Donk was the first one to tell me "you've got to organize meetups. People need to explore their stories together." So I get John to explore his with us.

John has been a beloved partner with me on this JBP journey of mine. He's a wise mature Christian who knows how to love people. He shares his life here with us.

Come join us in a meetup together in Chino CA on October 18 at 7pm at the Centro Basco Bistro. https://goo.gl/maps/WsDLRRdkawm 

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