In this conversation, Ridge and Kai delve into their personal experiences and memories associated with Jaws, the legendary big wave surf spot in Maui. They discuss their early encounters with the wave, the evolution of big wave surfing, the impact of the Strapped Crew, and the transition from tow-in surfing to paddling. The conversation highlights the spiritual connection to Pe'ahi and the challenges faced by surfers taking on the spot. They also reflect on the influence of surfing legends like Shane Dorian, Laird Hamilton, and more and the camaraderie within the surfing community.