It's been well over a year since this interview was recorded, and it's finally seeing the light of day. Life happens, projects come up, and this wonderful conversation and a handful of others were recorded in 2023/2024 and never released. This backlog of recordings is Season 8 of the podcast, The Light Of Day series.

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In the 81st episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown is at the Penland School of Craft during their Winter Residency program. It’s January of 2024 and Sarah has been invited to Penland as the Andrew Glasgow Resident which afforded her the time and space to record interviews with artists from all over the country. One such artist being Sarah’s friend and peer within the jewelry/metals field, Erin S. Daily. 

On a snowy afternoon, the two jewelers took some time to catch up. Although Sarah was very familiar with Erin’s current business, Brooklyn Metal Works, she knew very little about her background. The two discuss Erin’s education and how she found her way to metals/jewelry, Erin’s passion for seeking and building community, her time at the The Arcosanti Project, what brought Erin to NYC, how she met her Brooklyn Metal Works co-founder, and the realities of starting a business in one of the most expensive and competitive cities in the world.

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Erin S. Daily is the Co-Founder of Brooklyn Metal Works, a jewelry and metalsmithing studio, educational lab, and exhibition space dedicated to fostering creative practices and community engagement. She builds international connections among artists and makers through exhibitions, artist talks, and discussion groups while providing a dynamic studio environment for artistic growth. Erin is also deeply committed to responsible sourcing in the jewelry industry, advocating for ethical and sustainable practices. She was among the first U.S. jewelers to join the Fairmined Initiative in 2013 and continues this work as a Fairmined Gold licensee and collaborator with the Jewelry Glossary Project.

Beyond her studio practice, Erin plays an active role in the jewelry and metalsmithing field, serving on the Advisory Committee for NYC Jewelry Week and contributing to museum exhibitions like 45 Stories in Jewelry: 1947 to Now at the Museum of Arts and Design. She has taught extensively across the Northeast, including at Brooklyn Metal Works and Parsons School of Design, and her artwork has been exhibited internationally. In 2019, she co-founded Specific Gravity, a retail space supporting Brooklyn Metal Works artists while offering a platform for diverse jewelry expressions to engage local audiences. Erin holds a BFA in Metal from the University of Kansas and an MFA in Metal from SUNY New Paltz.

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It's been well over a year since this interview was recorded and it's finally seeing the light of day. Life happens, projects come up, and this wonderful conversation and a handful of others were recorded in 2023/2024 and never released. This backlog of recordings is Season 8 of the podcast, The Light Of Day series.

In the 80th episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown is in Seattle, WA over the Thanksgiving holiday. It's November of 2023, and Sarah has set up her microphones in David Chatt's guest apartment, which she's fortunate to stay in for the week. It's a charming and cozy apartment and reflects David’s eye for design and impeccable taste.

David and Sarah's friendship has evolved from benefactor/artist to friends to chosen family, and the two begin by sharing how they were brought into each other's lives. David speaks to how his creative practice began, how his parents' talents inspired him, navigating between following his passions and monetizing his abilities, the preciousness of studio time, his relationship with his things, the importance of a good editor, and a fascination for rocks.

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I have spent my entire adult life sewing tiny glass beads, one to the next.  I have spent as much as a year to create one piece.  I am a pioneer, an inventor, and one of a few who have gained recognition for beadwork as a fine art/craft medium.  My work has taken me all over the United States and abroad as a lecturer, exhibitor, and teacher, and is included in public and private collections, including a recent acquisition by The Smithsonian’s Renwick Museum.  My achievements have been chronicled in books and periodicals, and in 2006 my career was recognized with a retrospective at the Bellevue Arts Museum.  I have received a number of awards, including the grand prize at the 2020 Ireland Glass Biennale. In 2006 I accepted a three-year residency at Penland School of Crafts where I built a hot glass studio and studied ladle-cast glass. At the end of this residency, I returned to working with beads, but struggling with tools that were unfamiliar and allowing myself to consider other ways of working was invaluable.   The time I spent living in this community and taking a break from my usual way of working, offered me an opportunity to think differently.  The process of becoming adept at something, which challenged me, also made me a better teacher.  I am planning to move permanently to the Penland area this spring.

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In the 79th episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown takes listeners to the Penland School of Craft, where she’s participating in their Winter Residency. During the two-week residency, Sarah never missed an opportunity to enjoy a meal in the dining hall. The Pines, the Penland dining hall, has large, round tables perfect for gathering and enabling conversations over meals. Each meal is an opportunity to sit next to a stranger and potentially meet a new friend - or podcast guest.

After enjoying a few meals and conversations, Sarah asked Zahra Almajidi if she would be willing to come on the podcast. The two metalsmiths sat down to discuss Zahra’s upbringing and why her family immigrated to the United States, the benefits of living with your parents while going to college, and if it’s possible to appropriate a culture that is your own while living in the diaspora.

Speaking of Penland….

Western North Carolina was devastated by Hurricane Helene. This area is home to the Penland School of Craft and many artists and craftspersons. If you are able, please consider donating to one of the following organizations or platforms providing aid and relief in the area.

TREATS STUDIOS: This network aims to connect affected artists and arts organizations with individuals who want to support them.

Beloved Asheville: Backed by your support, BeLoved Asheville is dedicating every resource to those most affected by this disaster. Our immediate focus has been on critical necessities like food, water, and healthcare for survival and stability. As winter looms, we are securing warm and safe housing for the displaced. Looking further ahead, recovery from the vast destruction will be a large-scale investment over several years. We believe that we can unite to rebuild a community that embodies home, health, equity, and opportunity for all. 

OUR GUEST

Zahra Almajidi is a visual artist and metalsmith raised and based in Detroit, MI. Utilizing both traditional metalsmithing techniques and CAD/CAM processes, her work explores the ways in which objects and adornment allow displaced people to continue to uphold and practice their craft traditions while living in the diaspora.

She has worked at several art fabrication spaces in Metro Detroit including Wayne State University where she received her BFA in Metalsmithing, Lawrence Technological University where she briefly served as shop co-manager, and Cranbrook Academy of Art where she received her MFA in Metalsmithing and was awarded the Cranbrook Art Director’s fellowship and the Director’s Award.

She has taken part in the 2021 Incubator Residency program at Talking Dolls Detroit, the Artist + Residents Program at the Arab American National Museum in 2021, and the Winter Residency program at Penland School of Craft in 2024. She’s also dedicated to maintaining an active studio practice, and regularly exhibits work. She is currently the Central Materials Lab Coordinator at Cranbrook Academy of Art as well as anadjunct instructor at Wayne State University.

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In the 78th episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown takes listeners to the Penland School of Craft, where she’s participating in their Winter Residency. Leading up to the residency, Sarah had heard from a few fellow artists attending, but overall, she had no idea who she would cross paths with. To her delight, the residency allowed her to meet many artists she’s admired from afar. Among them is the guest for this episode, Lauren Kalman, who has been on Sarah’s interview wishlist for some time. After sharing a few meals, Sarah asked for an interview.

The two women sat down to discuss how Lauren unexpectedly got her first teaching position, the art of negotiation and why it’s a crucial skill, how to sell work when your work is challenging to sell, and how an artist’s work is not always representative of their personality.

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Lauren Kalman is a visual artist based in Detroit whose practice is rooted in craft, sculpture, video, photography, and performance. She completed her PhD in Practice-led Research from the School of Art and Design at the Australian National University. She earned an MFA in Art and Technology from Ohio State University and a BFA with a focus in Metals from Massachusetts College of Art.

Her work has been featured in exhibitions at the Renwick Gallery at the Smithsonian Museum of American Art, Museum of Arts and Design, Museum of Contemporary Craft, Cranbrook Art Museum, Contemporary Art Museum Houston, Museum of Fine Arts Boston, Mint Museum, World Art Museum in Beijing, and the Musée d’Art Moderne de la Ville de Paris among others. Her work is in the permanent collection of the Françoise van den Bosch Foundation at the Stedelijk Museum Amsterdam, Museum of Fine Arts Boston, Smithsonian Museum of American Art, Detroit Institute of Art, Museum of Arts and Design, and the Korean Ceramics Foundation. In 2020 she received the Françoise van den Bosch Award for her career’s impact on the jewelry field; in 2022, she received the Raphael Founders Prize in Glass from Contemporary for Craft; and in 2023 she was named a Kresge Arts in Detroit Fellow.

She is a dedicated educator and is currently a Professor and the Chair of the Department of Art, Art History, and Design at Wayne State University in Detroit.

www.laurenkalman.com

Instagram: @laurenkalman

Facebook: @LaurenKalmanArt

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In the 77th episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown is at the Penland School of Craft during their Winter Residency this past January. Sarah was awarded the Andrew Glasgow Residency, which provides emerging and established writers, scholars, curators, and storytellers in all mediums with the freedom to write stories and conduct research and interviews on topics designed to advance the field of craft. Sarah took advantage of being surrounded by artists from all over the country and recorded 13 interviews in total. Sarah was delighted to learn that her friend Adam Grinovich had been awarded a winter residency so the two made a plan to connect while their paths crossed at Penland. 

At the time of this recording, Adam and his wife, Annika Pettersson, who is also a jeweler, were preparing to move to Penland in a few months to begin a one-year residency. The two jewelers sat down to discuss why Adam chose to transition out of his full-time teaching position at SCAD Savannah, how he navigated the logistics of living and studying abroad, and what he hopes his time as a Penland Resident Artist will bring.

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Adam Grinovich was born in Boston Massachusetts USA and received his BFA from Massachusetts College of Art in the Jewelry and Metalsmithing program. After working in the CAD/CAM industry for 2 years he continued his studies, receiving an MFA in jewelry from Konstfack University in Stockholm Sweden studying under professors Ruudt Peters and Karen Pontoppidan.

Grinovich’s career in jewelry is punctuated by travel and exchange. He has assisted in the studios of prominent artists and designers such as Christoph Zellwegger in Zurich, Switzerland and Ted Noten in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. He has an extensive list of international exhibitions and inclusion in private and public collections.

In addition to his independent studio career Grinovich is a founding member of the experimental jewelry collective A5 , a member of the design collective Critical +.

The work of Adam Grinovich deals with the themes of glamour, worth, value, technology, and adornment. His work crystalizes moments into microcosms, investigates the sublime qualities of craft, and collects simple gestures into complex expressions.

In addition to craft, art, and design, Grinovich is an educator, working for 5 years as a Professor of Jewelry at Savannah College of Art and Design. Currently he is a resident artist at the Penland School of Crafts in NC, USA.

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In the 76th episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown is at the Penland School of Craft during their Winter Residency. This episode is part of a special series featuring the Distinguished Fellows of the Penland Winter Residency. As the Andrew Glasgow Resident, Sarah has been awarded two full weeks to conduct interviews and research at Penland during their winter program. Sarah was encouraged to share a portion of her work with Penland’s artist community, thus this special series.

The fourth and final Distinguished Fellow to be featured is Shani Richards, a metalsmith from Akron, Ohio. The two metalsmiths sat down and discussed what Shani was focusing on during her time at the Penland Winter Residency. Shani being no stranger to fellowships or residencies, their conversation evolved into discussing the pros and cons of pursuing a career as a full-time artist, how Shani is navigating her current nomadic lifestyle, and what she hopes for in her future.

This special series is possible due to the support of the Penland School of Craft and the Andrew Glasgow Residency.

Thank you to the Penland staff and artists for the generosity of your time and participation.

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In the 75th episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown is at the Penland School of Craft during their Winter Residency. This episode is part of a special series featuring the Distinguished Fellows of the Penland Winter Residency. As the Andrew Glasgow Resident, Sarah has been awarded two full weeks to conduct interviews and research at Penland during their winter program. Sarah was encouraged to share a portion of her work with Penland’s artist community, thus this special series.

The third Distinguished Fellow to be featured is Rich Brown, a ceramic artist based in Georgia. The two artists sat down and discussed Rich’s experience as a Division 1 College Basketball player, his career in education before pottery, the importance of dreaming big, and his current dreams. In this important conversation, Rich also shares his lived experience of being black in predominately white spaces- the fears that can bring, and how Rich documents and shares his experiences within the ceramic and craft communities in hopes of inspiring the next generation of black makers.

This special series is possible due to the support of the

Penland School of Craft and the Andrew Glasgow Residency.

Thank you to the Penland staff and artists for the generosity of your time and participation.

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Clay, for Rich Brown, is a means of release of life’s cumulative journey. Using this medium allows him to convey his spiritual journey through this lifetime, always evolving. Rich focuses on functional ware to connect with his audience; a part of him is embedded in each piece. Created with honesty, integrity, and pure intentions to be experienced by its user. Creating work that blends harmoniously with the user through a symbiotic relationship.

Rich Brown is inspired by the community and the gathering at the table, which brings people together to celebrate the gift of life. His work is created primarily on the wheel, with the current exploration of coiled, slabbed, and altered work. Focusing on ergonomics, craftsmanship, and pairing with food is paramount in the creative process of his work.

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In the 74th episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown is at the Penland School of Craft during their Winter Residency. This episode is part of a special series featuring the Distinguished Fellows of the Penland Winter Residency. As the Andrew Glasgow Resident, Sarah has been awarded two full weeks to conduct interviews and research at Penland during their winter program. Sarah was encouraged to share a portion of her work with Penland’s artist community, thus this special series.

The second Distinguished Fellow to be featured is Folayemi Wilson, an object and image-maker based in Philadelphia, PA. Although Sarah and Folayemi live in the same city, their paths did not cross until the Penland Winter Residency. As the two women began their discussion, Folayemi casually disclosed that she was in the process of fulfilling her dream of owning a building. The two artists discuss the details of Folayemi purchasing her first building, the importance of prioritizing rest as a working artist, and what Folayemi is focused on during her time at the Penland Winter Residency.

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In the 73rd episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown is at the Penland School of Craft during their Winter Residency. This episode is part of a special series featuring the Distinguished Fellows of the Penland Winter Residency. As the Andrew Glasgow Resident, Sarah has been awarded two full weeks to conduct interviews and research at Penland during their winter program. Sarah was encouraged to share a portion of her work with Penland’s artist community, thus this special series.

The first Distinguished Fellow to be featured is Ada del Pilar Ortiz Berríos, a visual artist and educator based in Barranquitas, Puerto Rico. This past November, Sarah traveled to San Juan, PR, for the first time and, while there, visited the Museo de Arte Contemporáneo de Puerto Rico. At this museum, she came across Ada’s work, not knowing that she would have the chance to interview her two months later. The two artists sat down to discuss Ada’s life in Puerto Rico, the residencies Ada has completed, and what she is focusing on during her time at Penland.

This special series is possible due to the support of the

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Thank you to the Penland staff and participating artists for the generosity of your time and participation.

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Ada del Pilar Ortiz Berríos (b.1995 Barranquitas, Puerto Rico) is a visual artist and educator. Her artistic practice interacts with sculptural processes that explore issues within the architectural condition, the meaning of home, the remains of built space and their relationship with memory. Through her work she reflects on how these concepts shape us in the place we inhabit from its physicality and the one that resides in us from memory -both concrete and malleable- as part of our formation, establishing a link between the reality of a place and the imagined one. Ada del Pilar obtained her BFA with a concentration in Painting from the School of Fine Arts and Design of Puerto Rico in 2018. Her work has been presented individually and collectively in spaces such as the Arsenal de la Puntilla Museum, El Kilómetro Gallery, Embajada Gallery, the Museum of Contemporary Art of Puerto Rico and the Clemente Soto Vélez Cultural & Educational Center in New York, among others. She has participated in residencies including Área: Programa de Residencias (2019), “La Práctica” interdisciplinary program at Beta Local (2019), The Studios at MASS MoCA, Puerto Rico Artist Fellowship (2023) and Penland School of Crafts Winter Residency (2024). Her work has been commissioned by the Museum of Contemporary Art of Puerto Rico under the "MAC en el Barrio" program. Ada’s work has been supported by the Foundation for Contemporary Arts and CATAPULT: "A Caribbean Arts Grant" programme. She currently lives and works in Bayamón, Puerto Rico as an artist in residency in "Proyecto Casitas Artistas Residentes" of this municipality.

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In the coming 4 episodes of the podcast, host Sarah Rachel Brown interviews distinguished fellows of the Penland Winter Residency. These interviews were recorded in January 2024 as part of Sarah’s Andrew Glasgow Residency. This Glasgow residency provides emerging and established writers, scholars, curators, and storytellers in all mediums with the freedom to write stories and conduct research and interviews on topics designed to advance the field of craft.

With the support of the Penland School of Craft, this special series aims to highlight what the Penland Winter Residency is and what it means to be a distinguished fellow. Through one-on-one interviews with select fellows, Sarah gives insight into what this experience entailed and how this opportunity impacted each artist’s current studio practice.

To help introduce this series, Sarah asked members of Penland’s staff to speak on what exactly Penland’s Winter Residency is, how artists can participate, and the process for selecting distinguished fellows. 

In order of guest appearance:

Leslie Noell, Creative Director

Nadia Massoud, Studio Operations Manager

Mia Hall, Executive Director

The first episode will be released on Tuesday, April 9th. Thank you to Penland and the Andrew Glasgow Residency for the time and space to make this series possible. And a special thank you to the participating artists for stepping away from your studios to record these interviews.