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In this soul-deep conversation, my dear friend Elise Loehnen returns to unpack profound truths from her books True and False Magic (with Phil Stutz) and Choosing Wholeness Over Goodness. We explore why creativity is the ultimate antidote to ‘evil’, how to recognize your sabotaging ‘Part X’, and the liberating difference between Universe One (ruled by numbers/money) and Universe Two (ruled by pure creation). Elise shares practical tools like the ‘Science of Reality’ to combat anxiety and why claiming your wholeness matters more than performing ‘goodness’. If you’ve ever felt stuck in doubt or creative resistance, this episode is your invitation back to your life force.

TIMESTAMPED OVERVIEW

03:34 Episode Introduction & Welcoming Elise Loehnen

04:03 Elise’s Reading Habits & Book Projects

05:45 Choosing Wholeness Over Goodness (Workbook Explanation)

06:36 True and False Magic with Phil Stutz (Book Insights)

08:18 Universe One vs. Universe Two Defined

11:01 Part X: The Inner Saboteur Revealed

14:25 Science of Reality Tool for Anxiety

17:44 Women’s Retreat Promotion (October Event)

20:41 Creative Struggles: Marketing vs. Authenticity

23:27 Self-Sabotage & Upper Limit Problem

40:41 Life Force Energy & Daily Creative Practices

46:00 Where to Find Elise’s Work (Closing Resources)