Our guest in this episode is Philip Vivian from Bates Smart Architects. Philip is a registered architect and director of Bates Smart at their New South Wales office who has worked on some of the practice's largest urban growth projects. In this episode, Philip shares the different types of unbuilt work that Bates Smart take on, why the practice has taken on some of these projects as pro bono projects, and how projects focused on a vision of the future can help inspire governments to make our built environment better. This interview is conducted by Sally Hsu who is an EmAGN representative based in New South Wales.