The guest on this episode of the Renegade Report is the Academic Director of private "university" Akademia, Piet le Roux. The conversation dovetails around the nature of privately funded, community-based tertiary education schemes in contrast to that of State funded universities. Piet offers a strong defence of community-based initiatives while Jonathan questions the reason for Government involvement in educational institutions. Roman get comfortable with another anarchist in the studio, which leads to a rather deep and metaphorical defence of anarchy.