Many church leaders feel caught between uncomfortable extremes when it comes to how to evangelize - either instrumental strategies that feel manipulative or avoiding evangelism altogether out of fear it will drive people away. In this episode, Luther Seminary professor Andy Root offers a third way through his new book "Evangelism in an Age of Despair." Andy shows how to evangelize through what he calls "a theology of consolation" - recognizing that the caring relationships churches naturally build actually constitute authentic evangelism when grounded in the conviction that Jesus Christ is present in our shared sorrows.

Rather than learning new programs or strategies, Andy helps church leaders recognize the evangelism they're already doing. When congregations sit with people going through cancer treatment, help neighbors clean out a deceased parent's home, or simply take walks with those who are grieving, they're practicing presence-based evangelism. This conversation will transform how you think about how to evangelize by moving from strategy-based approaches to authentic ministry that flows naturally from Christian care and consolation.

Andrew Root, PhD (Princeton Theological Seminary) is the Carrie Olson Baalson Professor of Youth and Family Ministry at Luther Seminary. He is most recently the author of Evangelism in an Age of Despair and the six volume Ministry in a Secular Age series.

• Book: Evangelism in an Age of Despair (Andy Root, 2025):
• Book: The Promise of Despair (Andy Root, 2010)
• Book: The Gospel of Wellness (Rina Raphael, 2022)
• Book: The Ethics of Authenticity (Charles Taylor, 2018)
• Book: Cosmopolis (Stephen Toulmin, 1992)

When devastating wildfires swept through Pasadena in early 2025, La Fuente Ministries faced a test of what it means to be church in community crisis. Pastor Marcos Canales and Nina Lau Branson join us to share how their bilingual, intergenerational congregation discovered that being church in community crisis isn't about having perfect emergency plans—it's about cultivating spiritual practices and community connections that help people encounter God even in the midst of catastrophe. From grief stations during the pandemic to emotional vocabulary work and neighborhood-based "casitas" groups, their intentional approach to formation created a foundation that served them well when members lost homes and their entire community faced displacement and trauma.

This conversation reveals what authentic church in community crisis looks like beyond typical disaster response protocols. Marcos and Nina demonstrate how embracing the full spectrum of human emotions, creating liturgies that externalize trauma, and fostering distributed leadership can transform crisis from something that destroys community into a pathway for deeper discipleship. Whether your congregation is currently navigating challenges or you want to understand how to be church in community crisis when difficulties arise, their witness offers hope and concrete tools for any church leader committed to shepherding with authenticity and care.

In this thought-provoking episode of the Pivot Podcast, we dive deep into the concept of "one church multiple models" with returning guest Dwight Zscheile. Dwight unpacks the idea of a "mixed ecology" - where traditional congregations and new forms of ministry can flourish together as one church with multiple expressions. He explains how cultural shifts are making traditional church structures increasingly obsolete for younger generations, while presenting practical ways to develop multiple models that don't add to leaders' already full plates.

Explore how clergy can shift from "performing" ministry to equipping others, discover practical first steps toward nurturing both inherited and new expressions of church, and learn the biblical foundations for diverse ministry models using the vine and branches metaphor. Whether you're struggling with declining attendance, volunteer burnout, or connecting with your changing community, embracing one church multiple models offers a hopeful path forward that honors tradition while embracing creative new approaches. Dwight's insights from his forthcoming book, co-authored with Blair Pogue, provide a timely roadmap for church leaders navigating today's challenging ministry landscape.

Biblical improvisation offers a compelling framework for preaching in today's complex cultural landscape. In this thought-provoking episode of the Pivot Podcast, Dr. Mark Glanville, Director of the Center for Missional Leadership and professional jazz pianist, shares how preachers can be like jazz musicians—deeply rooted in tradition while creating something fresh and contextual with each sermon.

Drawing from his new book "Preaching in a New Key," Mark explores how the post-Christian shift impacts biblical proclamation and offers practical strategies for preachers navigating this transition. Discover how to move from positional authority to invitational posture, cultivate genuine curiosity with scripture, and form communities that reflect Christ's love in their neighborhoods.

Is your church struggling to meaningfully engage with your community? In this transformative episode of the Pivot Podcast, host Dwight Zscheile interviews Pastor Ed Doerner about his innovative approach to church leadership community engagement. Discover how Messiah Lutheran Church in Midland, Michigan transformed from being $5.2 million in debt to creating a sustainable community ministry model that provides $6.2 million worth of services annually through their "Beyond the Breakwater" approach.

Pastor Ed shares practical insights on developing sustainable ministries that preserve dignity, reach the often-overlooked ALICE population (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed), and create organic opportunities for faith conversations. Learn about their car repair facility, grocery store, healthcare clinic, and appliance refurbishment ministries—all designed to engage church leaders in community transformation while empowering lay leadership.

In this compelling Pivot Podcast episode, we explore effective Gen Z spiritual formation through the lens of campus ministry. Eric Huseth, Executive Director of Emmaus Campus Ministry at the University of Montana, shares how his team creates authentic spaces for students to explore faith on their own terms. Eric describes today's college students as assembling a "spiritual jigsaw puzzle" influenced by diverse traditions and profound cultural experiences.

Discover practical insights on sustainable ministry models, ecumenical partnerships, and how to communicate faith authentically to a generation with what Eric calls "the biggest BS meter imaginable." Whether you're in campus ministry or leading a traditional congregation, this conversation offers valuable perspectives on forming disciples among younger generations.

In a culture driven by performance and achievement, ministry leaders often feel immense pressure to fix declining institutions and busy congregations with more programs. David Zahl, founder of Mockingbird Ministries and author of "The Big Relief," joins hosts Dwight Zscheile and Terri Elton to explore how grace-centered ministry offers an alternative that both relieves pressure and creates more vibrant communities. David shares how his church has experienced unexpected growth by focusing on grace, giving permission for low engagement, and letting ministry initiatives emerge from the congregation rather than clergy.

This conversation unpacks David's concept of "low anthropology"—a realistic view of human limitations that opens the door to greater compassion—and explores how churches can offer genuine relief in a worn-out world. Whether you're facing ministry burnout or seeking to create a community where people feel truly seen and welcomed, this episode provides both theological depth and practical wisdom for shifting from fixing to listening and from performing to receiving grace.

Mike and Danny Housholder from Lutheran Church of Hope in Iowa share their journey in multi-site church ministry spanning several communities across Iowa. At the heart of their approach is a commitment to "set the sails of this church to the wind of God's Spirit" rather than simply doing church for God. They explain how their guiding principle—"Jesus is life, the rest is details"—provides both foundation and flexibility across diverse contexts.

This conversation explores their distinctive approach to discipleship that emphasizes belonging before achieving, their practical methods for identifying and developing leaders, and how they maintain a consistent vision while allowing each campus to develop its own personality. Church leaders will find valuable insights for navigating change while remaining centered on mission.

Holy Week marks the most pivotal moments in the Christian faith, but how often do we rush to get to Easter morning? In this thoughtful 7-minute reflection, Terri invites listeners to slow down and experience the complete journey.

Drawing from personal experiences of bringing her young children to Good Friday services, Terri illustrates how encountering the darkness and solemnity of Christ's death creates a deeper appreciation for Easter's resurrection joy. She explores how each moment of Holy Week—from Palm Sunday's "Hosannas" to the confusion of the Last Supper to the waiting of Holy Saturday—enriches our faith journey.

Terri reminds us that Jesus brought a countercultural message of unconditional love to a world focused on who's in and who's out—a message that continues to challenge and transform us today. This brief but meaningful episode offers listeners permission to sit with difficult questions and emotions, knowing that Easter's promise awaits.

Perfect for personal reflection or sharing with your congregation as Holy Week approaches.

In this quarterly Q&A episode, our hosts tackle one of the most common struggles church leaders face: knowing what to focus on when everything seems important.

Listen as they explore why many churches describe themselves by their programs rather than their theological identity, and how this leads to burnout and confusion. You'll discover practical exercises to help your congregation reconnect with its unique story and calling.

Key insights include recognizing the warning signs of identity confusion, using your church's history to uncover God's ongoing work, and embracing the freedom that comes from focused calling rather than trying to solve every problem.