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Ajay Chankramath - Founder & CEO at Platformetrics & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering"
Nic Cheneweth - Principal Consultant at Thoughtworks & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering"

RESOURCES
Ajay
https://www.linkedin.com/in/chankramath
https://github.com/achankra
https://x.com/ajchantw
https://chankramath.com
https://platformetrics.com

Nic
https://www.linkedin.com/in/niccheneweth
https://github.com/ncheneweth
https://x.com/NicCheneweth
https://ncheneweth.com

Links
https://effectiveplatformengineering.com
https://epetech.io
https://dora.dev
https://dora.dev/research/2025/dora-report

DESCRIPTION
Ajay Chankramath (founder and CEO of Platformetrics) and Nic Cheneweth  Cheneweth (Principal Technologist at ThoughtWorks) explore the evolving world of platform engineering. They discuss why a product mindset is critical for internal platforms, how control planes and API-first design create scalable foundations, the real challenges organizations face when implementing Backstage, and where AI and agents are beginning to change the platform landscape. Throughout, both speakers emphasize that cutting corners on architectural foundations ultimately compounds problems at scale.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Chankramath, Cheneweth, Oliver & Alvarez • Effective Platform Engineering • https://amzn.to/3OnxN8i
Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb

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