We all need space sometimes. So Ebube and Cris are staying as far as they possibly can from all freezers as they reel from the fifth episode of Apple TV's 'Pluribus'.

They start by suggesting a new home for Carol while taking stock of the new information we get about the Joined (10:55), as well as the fact that Laxmi never changes, before discussing the implications of Carol effectively being treated like an existential threat (12:48).

They then discuss Carol's recording persona, the highlights of her milk investigation, and her fierce battle with the OG scavengers. They also weigh in on the discourse about the Joined bearing uncanny similarities to generative AI, and talk about whether that should affect the way people perceive the show itself (39:20).

They of course finish by diving into the episode's quietly intense ending and how it potentially changes the tone of the entire show (52:51), after which they address comments from the audience (01:03:52).

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Host: Ebube Ubochi 
Guests: Cris
Production by: Ebube Ubochi