PMP Exam Prep with Scott Payne

PMP Exam Trauma, Two Fails, and Finally Passing – Kader's Story


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If you've failed the PMP exam, feel "blocked" by test anxiety, or keep getting passed over for roles because you don't have those three letters, this episode is for you. Reach out to me personally - I will help you - [email protected] or 757-759-5282

In this powerful PMP success interview, Scott talks with Kader (Dr. G), a seasoned federal government program director with 20+ years of project and program management experience—who still couldn't get past the PMP exam.

Despite leading 8 programs and multiple IT projects in the Washington, D.C. government contracting world, Kader:

  • Failed the PMP exam twice

  • Struggled through high-pressure bootcamps while juggling toddlers and a parent in heart surgery

  • Had a boss who was blowing up her phone during class because work was falling apart

  • Watched colleagues walk around like they were in an "exclusive PMP club" she didn't belong to

  • Carried deep exam trauma, anxiety, and the shame of people using her failures against her

Oh… and English is her fifth language.

This was supposed to be her "last attempt". She told Scott,

"If I don't pass this time, I'm done. I'm walking away from the PMP."

Instead, Kader completely changed her relationship with the exam.

Using the All In PM Prep 10-week, incremental, community-based approach, she stopped cramming and started building endurance, confidence, and self-trust:

  • She realized her problem wasn't knowledge—it was four-hour exam stamina.

  • She used 20-question, 45-question, and 60-question practice blocks to train like a marathon.

  • She integrated self-care: nature walks with audio lessons, better mental space, and intentional rest.

  • She leaned on coaching calls and classmates so she didn't feel alone in the anxiety.

  • She applied her doctoral research in post-traumatic growth to exam trauma—recognizing fight/flight/freeze/fawn/flop patterns and working through them.

When she finally walked out of the test center, holding that sheet of paper, she couldn't even find the result at first. Then she saw it, in tiny print:

"Passed."

She broke down in tears. Years of fear, shame, and feeling "less than" in her career lifted in a moment.

In This Episode, You'll Hear:
  • How someone with two decades of PM leadership still struggled to pass the PMP

  • Why bootcamps failed her twice—and why cramming is the worst fit if life is already chaotic

  • How exam trauma shows up (fight, flight, freeze, fawn, flop) and what it feels like in real life

  • The difference between knowing PM and having the endurance and mindset to survive a 4-hour exam

  • How incremental learning, repetition, and community helped her break through anxiety

  • Why failing the PMP is not the end—and how to reframe your "failures" as stepping stones

  • The emotional release of finally joining that "exclusive club" and how it changed her confidence

If you work in government contracting, IT, or program management and feel stuck because you keep hearing "PMP required," this conversation will hit home. If you've failed before or feel like this exam is your last shot, you'll see yourself in Kader's story.

Who This Episode Is For

This episode is especially for you if:

  • You've failed the PMP exam once or more and are scared to try again

  • You feel paralyzed by exam anxiety or past test failures

  • You're in government contracting where PMP is a "basic requirement" for leadership roles

  • You're exhausted by bootcamps that cram everything into 4–5 days

  • You're tired of feeling like everyone else can do it but you

You're not broken. You're not alone. You just need a different plan—and a different kind of support.

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