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Podcast 122 – Cardiac Arrest after the Toxicology of Smoke Inhalation with Lewis Nelson


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We had a case a few months ago at Janus General--very sad and very scary. The patient came in after a house fire. He had some burns, but not enough to be the cause of his arrest. Instead, it had to be the asphyxia and possible toxicology of the smoke inhalation. I wanted to get a better idea of ideal care for these patients; for that I needed a toxicologist.

Few tox folks are smarter than Lewis Nelson, MD of the NYC Poison Center.

Note: In this episode we don't deal with the thermal injury of smoke inhalation
Cyanide Toxicity

* Empiric administration of  Hydroxocobalamin 5 g rapid IV drip x 1
* Even better if this can be given at the scene as soon as the patient arrests or is profoundly hypotensive
* Messes with labs that use colorimetric probes (cooximetry, lactate, LFTs, etc.) Get blood for cooximetry before giving the med if at all possible
* Dr. Nelson doesn't recommend giving sodium thiosulfate in addition to the Hydroxocobalamin
* An IM version is in the pipeline--this will be easier for EMS/emergency use

Hydroxocobalamin

You'll need 200 ml of Saline
Carbon Monoxide

* Put the patient on 100% fiO2
* Not much to do beyond that until the patient stabilizes
* See LITFL for more on CO

Methemoglobinemia

* Caused by Hb oxidation from the heat of the fire
* Administer Methylene Blue 2 mg/kg x 1 IVP
* May be worthwhile to start a drip if patient has resistant hypotension, but this is an unproven therapy

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