There’s change in the air about science publishing, and Harlan Krumholz, the founding editor of the journal Circulation: Cardiovascular Quality and Outcomes, thinks it’s time to reimagine the whole concept of what a journal is and what it does.

He poured his ideas into an editorial, “The End of Journals,” which he published as he approached the end of his editorship. We finally caught up with him weeks later (he’s elusive) and talked about those ideas.

(As this podcast was being readied for posting, the New York Times published an account of Nobel laureate Carol Greider’s posting of work on bioRxiv. She celebrated by tweeting under #ASAPbio.)