Miles & Points in 2026 with Jason Steele
Justin Vacula hosts the Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast with special guest Jason Steele, founder of CardCon and the Financial Affiliate Marketing Forum (FMAF), for a wide-ranging discussion about the state of miles and points in 2026.
In this episode, Jason shares how he first got started with award travel, how he handles credit card annual fees, and why many travelers still get tremendous value from points and miles despite ongoing devaluations.
Justin and Jason also discuss how to answer credit card skeptics, the importance of responsible credit card use, and why paying balances in full is essential for long-term success.
They also dive into high-value redemption strategies, including Hyatt Globalist benefits, Wyndham sweet spots during major events, and how redemption choices can dramatically change the value of your points.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:45 Meet Jason Steele
01:26 Jasonβs miles and points origin story
03:10 How to answer skeptics of points and miles
05:20 Real travel wins and success stories
06:10 Managing annual fees, retention offers, and downgrades
08:44 Dream trips and a month in rural Italy
10:20 Can you travel too much?
12:20 Credit cards, responsible use, and paying in full
13:47 Getting maximum value from points and miles
15:46 What is Card Con?
17:33 FMAF and Toronto plans
17:52 Clarifying the industry event audience
18:19 Show announcements
20:27 Why Jason is still optimistic despite devaluations
23:23 Wyndham sweet spots and outsized redemption value
25:17 New cards and emerging trends
29:25 Bilt Palladium reality check
31:53 Upcoming travel plans
33:12 Jasonβs book and consulting work
35:21 Where to find Jason Steele
36:21 Final thanks and sign-off
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