Life Outside Poker is a podcast for PokerNews hosted by Connor Richards that seeks to pull back the curtain on poker players and allow viewers and listeners to get to know them on a personal level.

In the 31st episode, Connor talks with poker content creator Frank "Frankie C" Cucchiara about growing up in the hometown of Wild Bill Hickok, getting into poker in college, Next Gen Poker, building one of the most successful YouTube channels in poker, his 2023 World Series of Poker (WSOP) Main Event run, how new WSOP rules will impact vloggers, and playing this year's $25,000 Heads-Up Championship.

Frankie C also talked about being married to poker pro Kitty Kuo, being a dad, his new All-In Brownie challenging Daniel Negreanu to a $10,000 heads-up poker match and stepping into the ring with UFC champion Sean "Suga" O'Malley.

This interview was filmed at the 2025 WSOP at Horseshoe and Paris Las Vegas.

The Life Outside Poker podcast is available on major streaming platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, SoundCloud and iHeartRadio. You can also watch the interview with Frank Cucchiara by heading to the PokerNews YouTube channel.

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Timestamps TIME TOPIC 0:00 Intro 0:53 Growing up in Wild Bill Hickock's hometown 2:02 First getting into card games 3:26 Studying engineering at Soutern Memphis University 4:56 Getting laid off/Next Gen Poker 7:55 Starting Frankie C YouTube channel 11:05 Content creator influences 13:08 Frankie's most popular videos 16:05 Meeting Kitty Kuo 18:17 Being a dad 20:27 All In Brownie 25:05 Fighting Sean O'Malley 28:30 Challenging Negreanu to heads-up match 30:25 Other heads-up matches 31:40 Playing Triton 32:52 Martin Kabrhel 35:02 2023 WSOP Main Event run 37:44 How new WSOP rules will impact poker vlogging 40:12 Playing $25k Heads-Up Championship 41:43 Book recommendation 43:20 Advice for younger self 45:34 Favorite life lesson from poker