Many organizations need better and tighter infrastructure policy for their distributed systems. This need has been underscored by an increasing number of misconfigurations, especially in distributed microservices and Kubernetes environments.

How policy as code extends infrastructure as code was discussed in this latest episode of The New Stack Makers podcast, another one of our “pancakes and podcast” special episodes. The guests were Deepak Giridharagopal, chief technology officer of Puppet; Tiffany Jachja, data engineering manager for Vox Media; James Turnbull, vice president of engineering of the internationally known luxury and art auctioneer Sotheby’s; and Shea Stewart, a self-professed DevOps tech nerd. Alex Williams, founder and publisher of TNS, hosted the podcast.