There’s not a better person to talk about SA than her. (As you can see I admire her a lot.) Malena is an expert on SA for 21 years now. She was the vanguard in this matter and wrote 2 books about separation anxiety: first one “Treating separation anxiety in dogs” and the new one “Separation Anxiety in Dogs, Next Generation in Treatment Protocols and Practice” which are the guides for trainers and guardians to work with those issues. She has a certification for trainers, which is the one I graduated from. And another online course for guardians that want to work on the SA (follow the link for that https://courses.malenademartini.com?aff=67) . This conversation was super insightful and if you feel like you know all about SA, now you’ll realise there’s much more to it!