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Dan speaks to coaches Mike Pope and Rhys Williams about how they've used what they've learned from reading Doug Lemov's book: A Coach's Guide to Teaching.

Here are some of Doug's thoughts after listening to the podcast (more notes on the Rugby Coach Weekly website):

• Until it comes unprompted when we aren’t reminded to think about it, we probably haven’t learned it.
• “Interleaving is always with something you’ve already talked about.” Hugely important clarification for coaches that I hadn’t thought to make… though I will now.

Here are the key areas Dan, Rhys and Mike discussed:

• Rhys's six week plans: how they work in the context of what he took from the book
• Using feedback more effectively: examples, scenarios and maintaining flow in the session. Plus shortening the feedback loop
• How interleaving makes learning stick
• How the Forgetting Curve works for rugby players
• Tough feedback which creates pressure
• Desirable difficulty in training

Rhys is a youth rugby coach, plus works with Saracens DPP.
Mike is a school's head of rugby , senior mens coach, plus a lead coach with Bath DPP.

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