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P&S ModCast 136 — Our Eroding Rights | Re-Edit

Protecting rights requires more than defending a position online. What responsibilities come with citizenship, public service, and gun ownership—and what happens when those responsibilities go unmet?

Originally released March 1, 2018, this extended discussion examines firearm rights, school safety, police performance, and political advocacy in the aftermath of the Parkland shooting.

The conversation opens with the fear surrounding school threats and social media rumors, then examines the distinction between legal authority, moral responsibility, and professional duty. The panel discusses police leadership, hiring standards, field training, accountability, and the willingness to act when lives are threatened.

From there, the discussion turns toward the Second Amendment and the challenges of protecting rights while addressing public concerns about violence. The panel debates proposed restrictions, firearm purchase ages, school resource officers, response capabilities, and the costs and limitations of different approaches. These are candid discussions with substantial disagreement—not a single prescribed solution.

A recurring theme is the need for meaningful civic participation: voting, knowing local officials, contacting representatives, organizing peaceful demonstrations, and communicating beyond the existing gun-owning audience. Drawing on their experiences, panelists also discuss the devastating human consequences of political violence and challenge casual online rhetoric about civil conflict.

This re-edit retains an extended training and equipment conversation, including Mantis feedback, dry practice, trigger control, equipment evaluation, competition experiences, and the post-show discussion.

Host:
Matt Landfair

Panel:
Bill Blowers
Paul Gardner
Ash Hess
Chuck Pressburg

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Part 2: Radio Capability, Hearing Protection, and Equipment Integration
Programming and Training Are Part of the Purchase
The discussion examines channel plans, talkgroups, encryption, emergency alerts, location features, and the responsibilities of communications personnel and administrators. The panel argues for investigating whether a failure comes from incompatible hardware, missing configuration, insufficient training, or an organizational process.
Communications exercises and after-action reviews are presented as ways to expose those gaps. A documented problem, paired with an explanation of the available capability, can give decision-makers a concrete path toward improvement.
Hearing Protection Must Preserve Useful Information
The conversation shifts to combining radio communications with active hearing protection. Chuck describes his interest in an in-ear solution that would preserve directional awareness, remain comfortable, and work with the radios and other devices he needs.
The panel discusses Peltor, TCI/Safariland, TEA, and INVISIO systems, including concerns about ambient audio, separate radio channels, microphone quality, push-to-talk controls, and compatibility. These are accounts of the equipment and development efforts being discussed in 2016, with participants distinguishing products they had used from systems they still wanted to evaluate.
Helmets, Cables, and Limited Mounting Space
Helmet selection introduces another set of tradeoffs. Headset mounts, lights, rail designs, suspension systems, and cable routing all compete for space and affect comfort. The group discusses Team Wendy, Ops-Core, Crye, and other helmet options through the lens of how the complete setup works.
A component can perform well by itself and still create problems when combined with the rest of the equipment. The panel repeatedly returns to testing the actual configuration a person will wear and use.
Procurement and Honest Product Feedback
Shockey describes the realities of buying equipment for a team, including grant budgets, vendor responsiveness, and evaluation opportunities. Chuck separates useful product-development feedback from promotional exposure and stresses the value of manufacturers getting equipment into the hands of people who can identify practical shortcomings.
The conversation includes both positive and negative experiences with manufacturers. Its lasting procurement lesson is to establish requirements, obtain meaningful evaluation time, and assess performance before committing a team’s budget.
Vehicle Communications and Practiced Transitions
The closing portion explores body-worn radios, vehicle systems, audio feedback, intercoms, and the need to rehearse transitions between configurations. Equipment placement and access matter when a user changes tasks or leaves a vehicle.
A related discussion distinguishes the equipment carried to work and fight from a bag intended to support escape, evasion, or survival. The panel challenges assumptions about what a person will remember to retrieve under stress.


Recorded: Thursday, August 18, 2016.
Format: Three-part archival discussion.

Archive note: This is an informal, explicit-language conversation from 2016. Equipment specifications, prices, availability, affiliations, training plans, and descriptions of incidents reflect the participants’ understanding at that time. Technical and legal remarks are retained as historical discussion rather than current guidance. The restored release includes a new sponsor introduction.

Participants join and leave throughout the recording. The following identifications are supported by names and context in the transcripts:
Chuck Pressburg — referred to as Roland; leads much of the communications discussion.
Michael Hueser — the opening discussion includes his Columbia, Missouri, location and references to his physician father; he is also named when the group discusses participants who have left.
Matt Shockey — addressed by name; discusses patrol, SWAT, communications, and equipment procurement.
Matt Meckley — identified by the reference to Meckley leaving at the transition into Part 3; his protective-security background is consistent with the preceding vehicle and radio discussion.
Richard “Rich” Mason — addressed as Rich; discusses running DARC, its courses, facilities, and training programs firsthand.
Buck Thomas — referred to as Buck in the original recording.

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Part 1: Professional Communication, Body Cameras, and the Interoperability Problem
Expertise Has to Reach the Person Who Needs It
The opening discussion includes caregiving, medical education, and the difference between possessing technical knowledge and communicating it effectively. Personal stories illustrate how an expert can understand a subject thoroughly while still failing to explain it in language another person understands.
That theme carries into the rest of the episode. Whether the audience is a patient, a student, a patrol officer, or an administrator, information becomes useful when the recipient can understand and act on it.
Leadership, Morale, and Passing Experience Forward
The panel discusses police morale, leadership concerns, and the loss of experienced officers. The concern extends beyond staffing numbers: when experienced people disengage or leave, agencies can lose the mentorship that helps new officers develop sound judgment and practical competence.
A related conversation about introducing children to shooting emphasizes individual readiness, respectful handling, and making the learning experience fit the child.
Body Cameras, Perception, and Context
A planned discussion of a Chicago police shooting leads into questions about policy, officer perception, and recorded evidence. The panel considers both the value of cameras in resolving disputed accounts and the limits of treating video as a complete representation of an officer’s experience.
Camera placement, low-light performance, repeated playback, and information received through a radio all enter the conversation. The discussion also explores the then-emerging possibility of integrating video, location information, and radio traffic to preserve more of an encounter’s context.
When Neighboring Agencies Cannot Talk
Communications becomes the dominant subject. Shockey describes the difficulty of coordinating across jurisdictions when an officer must relay information through several dispatchers instead of reaching nearby responders directly. Pursuits and rapidly changing emergencies illustrate how an otherwise accurate location report can become stale before help receives it.
Chuck describes researching public-safety radios for his own use. The group discusses Project 25, legacy systems, multiband radios, cellular connectivity, and the gap between advertised interoperability and what users can actually accomplish.
The recurring question is practical: what can the existing equipment do, how has it been configured, and have the people who depend on it practiced working together?


Recorded: Thursday, August 18, 2016.
Format: Three-part archival discussion.

Archive note: This is an informal, explicit-language conversation from 2016. Equipment specifications, prices, availability, affiliations, training plans, and descriptions of incidents reflect the participants’ understanding at that time. Technical and legal remarks are retained as historical discussion rather than current guidance. The restored release includes a new sponsor introduction.

Participants join and leave throughout the recording. The following identifications are supported by names and context in the transcripts:

Chuck Pressburg — referred to as Roland; leads much of the communications discussion.
Michael Hueser — the opening discussion includes his Columbia, Missouri, location and references to his physician father; he is also named when the group discusses participants who have left.
Matt Shockey — addressed by name; discusses patrol, SWAT, communications, and equipment procurement.
Matt Meckley — identified by the reference to Meckley leaving at the transition into Part 3; his protective-security background is consistent with the preceding vehicle and radio discussion.
Richard “Rich” Mason — addressed as Rich; discusses running DARC, its courses, facilities, and training programs firsthand.
Buck Thomas — referred to as Buck in the original recording.

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P&S ModCast 71 brings together a wide-ranging panel to discuss firearms training, equipment selection, instructor credibility, and the work of separating useful information from entertainment. Across two parts, the conversation returns to a common question: can you explain why a technique or piece of equipment fits your needs, and have you tested that explanation?

The panel connects practical equipment discussions with a broader look at learning, professional standards, and the role of the Primary & Secondary community in helping people make informed decisions.

Recorded: Thursday, August 18, 2016.

Format: Two-part archival discussion.

Archive note: Equipment availability, prices, affiliations, training announcements, and opinions reflect the original 2016 conversation. Primary & Secondary Administration and Logistics (PSAL), discussed in this episode, has since been discontinued. Its discussion is retained as part of the network’s history. The restored release includes a new sponsor introduction.

Host and Panel Participants join at different points throughout the discussion.

Host: Matt Landfair — Primary & Secondary
Bill Blowers — Tap-Rack Tactical
Chuck Pressburg — referred to throughout the original recording as Roland.
Scott “Jedi” Jedlinski - Modern Samurai Project
Steve Fisher — Sentinel Concepts
Matt Levi
Steven A.
Lane Critser
Matt Shockey


Part 2: Reliability, Sling Setup, and Training Standards 

Equipment Failures and Lessons from Classes

Chuck describes RMR failures and the need to return optics for service. Steve recounts rifle problems observed during instruction, including a serious incident involving a cartridge during an attempt to clear a malfunction.

These accounts emphasize the value of testing equipment, recognizing when a problem exceeds a routine correction, and maintaining safe handling throughout troubleshooting. They are firsthand reports from this conversation rather than a comprehensive assessment of every product mentioned.

What Should a Low-Power Variable Optic Do?

The panel considers the purpose of low-power variable optics on general-purpose carbines. Close-range usability, weight, glass quality, and the ability to identify and engage more distant targets all shape the discussion.

The central question is what the rifle will spend most of its time doing. Additional magnification brings capabilities and tradeoffs that need to fit that role.

Sling Fit, Attachment Points, and Retention

One of Part 2’s longest technical discussions concerns rifle slings. Panelists compare attachment locations and adjustment methods while considering body size, armor, supported shooting, movement, and the need to control a rifle during hands-on work.

The discussion includes concerns about sling pressure on different rifle configurations and the interaction between equipment setup and aiming devices. The disagreement is useful: each participant is weighing somewhat different requirements, and the group repeatedly returns to knowing and testing one’s own setup.

Relearning Familiar Techniques

Stories from classes lead back to the challenge of changing established habits. A method can feel correct because it was learned first, practiced extensively, or demonstrated convincingly by someone the student trusts.

The panel discusses why instructors and students need to remain open to improvement, including when changing a technique requires an initial loss of familiarity or speed. Professional development depends on continuing to examine what works and why.

PSAL: A Historical Training-Coordination Initiative

The closing portion explains the original goals of Primary & Secondary Administration and Logistics: coordinating instructors and hosts, handling registration and routine questions, checking facility suitability, and helping students arrive prepared.

PSAL has since been discontinued. This portion documents an earlier stage in P&S’s development. It also raises lasting considerations for anyone organizing training: communicate requirements clearly, provide the resources a course needs, and match the facility to the instruction being offered.

The panel also discusses a proposed foundational curriculum and shares feedback about P&S information reaching professional training programs. Those comments reflect plans and personal accounts from the original recording.

Community, Humor, and Personal Stories The episode includes extensive informal conversation and personal stories, including Chuck’s account of an encounter with his pet Burmese python. That humor sits alongside the more technical exchanges and reflects the relationships behind the early ModCasts.

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P&S ModCast 71 brings together a wide-ranging panel to discuss firearms training, equipment selection, instructor credibility, and the work of separating useful information from entertainment. Across two parts, the conversation returns to a common question: can you explain why a technique or piece of equipment fits your needs, and have you tested that explanation?

The panel connects practical equipment discussions with a broader look at learning, professional standards, and the role of the Primary & Secondary community in helping people make informed decisions.

Recorded: Thursday, August 18, 2016.

Format: Two-part archival discussion.

Archive note: Equipment availability, prices, affiliations, training announcements, and opinions reflect the original 2016 conversation. Primary & Secondary Administration and Logistics (PSAL), discussed in this episode, has since been discontinued. Its discussion is retained as part of the network’s history. The restored release includes a new sponsor introduction.

Host and Panel Participants join at different points throughout the discussion.

Host: Matt Landfair — Primary & Secondary
Bill Blowers — Tap-Rack Tactical
Chuck Pressburg — referred to throughout the original recording as Roland.
Scott “Jedi” Jedlinski - Modern Samurai Project
Steve Fisher — Sentinel Concepts
Matt Levi
Steven A.
Lane Critser
Matt Shockey

Part 1: Evaluating Information, Instruction, and Equipment
Separating Education from Entertainment

The episode opens with P&S’s effort to improve the quality of information available to armed citizens, law enforcement, military personnel, and enthusiasts. The panel discusses how appealing explanations become accepted wisdom, why people defend the first method they learned, and what it takes to reconsider an opinion when evidence changes.

One recurring concern is the difference between a demonstration that succeeds under carefully selected conditions and a method that remains useful when the environment changes. Experience, context, and a willingness to test assumptions all matter when evaluating a claim.

Night Sights, White Light, and Pistol Optics

A listener question about tritium sights leads into discussion of fiber-optic sights, transitional lighting, target identification, aging eyesight, and pistol-mounted red dots. The panelists describe different experiences with handheld and weapon-mounted lights, illustrating how lighting conditions can change what a shooter sees.

The conversation also addresses one-handed pistol handling and the relationship between equipment features and developed skill. The panel places this material within a progression of training rather than treating specialized manipulations as an entry-level exercise.

Light Output and Testing Assumptions

The low-light discussion considers backlit subjects, beam pattern, reflected light, and the need to gather enough visual information to make decisions. Panelists challenge broad claims that bright lights are automatically unsuitable indoors and emphasize gaining experience with how light behaves in different spaces.

The numerical light-output preferences discussed are part of the 2016 recording. The enduring lesson is to evaluate a light’s actual performance in the conditions where it will be used.

Instructor Expertise and Student Readiness

Bill and Chuck discuss teaching within their areas of expertise and recognizing when another instructor is better suited to a subject. Credentials, reputation, and operational experience do not make every instructor equally effective for every student or every course.

The panel also considers how students can choose instruction that matches their current ability. Foundational training, purposeful practice, and honest self-assessment help students get more from later courses.

Pistol Optics, Night Vision, and Duty Holsters

Discussion of pistol-mounted optics expands into infrared illumination, night-vision compatibility, shield use, and holster requirements. The panel explores how an apparently useful equipment combination can create another problem when retention, reholstering, or compatibility enters the picture.

Duty-holster availability was an important constraint on pistol-optic adoption at the time. Manufacturing costs, development work, agency demand, and the need to accommodate different pistols, lights, and optics all receive attention.
Rifle Optics and Mount Height

Panelists recount their experience with early red-dot sights and the progression toward newer Aimpoint models and other options. They discuss viewing windows, night-vision use, battery life, and the limitations they encountered with particular systems.

A substantial exchange examines taller optic mounts, including the reasoning behind 1.93-inch mounts and the different requirements of close-range rifles and rifles using inline night-vision devices. The discussion links mount height to the complete equipment setup, including helmets, protective equipment, and accessories around the optic.

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Alliance Police Training grew through the work of dedicated people, industry support, and a commitment to making useful training available. In P&S ModCast 73, Matt Landfair and the panel discuss the Alliance facility and the inaugural Friends of Pat training weekend honoring Pat Rogers. The conversation brings together perspectives from the range staff, instructors, and attendees. They explore what made the weekend valuable, how newcomers can find their place in the training community, and how Pat’s influence continues through the people he taught and mentored. Recorded: November 5, 2016.

Host: Matt Landfair
Chuck Pressburg — introduced in the original recording as Roland Deschain.
Joe Weyer — Alliance Police Training.
Scott “Jedi” Jedlinski — Modern Samurai Project.
Steve Fisher — Sentinel Concepts.
Steven A.
Jess — Alliance training support and SWAT team member, with an Army helicopter aviation background.

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What makes a firearms community useful? Access to knowledgeable people helps, but the real value comes from learning how to ask better questions, evaluate information, and apply what you learn. In this archival episode of the Primary & Secondary ModCast, Matt Landfair and the panel discuss the early network support program and the relationships developing around P&S. The conversation moves from training journals and community events to pistol optics, equipment decisions, and the difficulty of helping someone reconsider a purchase they have made part of their identity. The discussion returns to a consistent principle: useful information should help people think for themselves and contribute to the learning of others. Archive note: Recorded September 16, 2016. 

Host: Matt Landfair

Panel:
Steven A.
Scott Jedlinski
Rich Mason
Adam Pini
Matt W.

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Originally recorded November 5, 2016. This archival ModCast returns with equipment references, organizations, and training opportunities discussed in the original conversation reflect that period.

Choosing firearms training means deciding where to spend limited time, money, and ammunition. In P&S ModCast 75, Matt Landfair joins Chad Mercer, Michael Hueser, Steven A., and Terry David for an informal discussion about finding instruction that develops useful ability.

The conversation begins with early-ModCast banter and equipment questions before settling into its central subject: how a student can evaluate instructors, what after-action reports contribute, and why strong fundamentals deserve attention even when they make less dramatic advertising. The panel also examines pistol mechanics, safe handling, equipment wear, and the role of disagreement in sharing knowledge.

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What goes into a silencer beyond its advertised decibel number? In P&S ModCast 469, Matt Landfair interviews Mike Cain of B.O.S.S. Silencers—Black Ops Suppression Systems about the company’s origins, suppressor design, manufacturing, and the tradeoffs that matter when matching a can to a firearm and a purpose.

The conversation moves from rimfire shooting and patrol rifles to pistol-caliber carbines, suppressed lever guns, and precision-rifle competition. Along the way, Cain explains BOSS’s approach to baffle geometry, sound character, durability, service, and product development.

Use code primarysecondary at Boss Silencers for 15% off.

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Originally recorded December 7, 2016. This archival episode returns with a new introduction and sponsor acknowledgments. Equipment references, course schedules, and personal updates in the original conversation reflect that period.P&S ModCast 76 features Aaron Cowan of Sage Dynamics in a wide-ranging discussion about defensive firearms instruction, pistol red dots, developing shooting skill, and the responsibility that comes with teaching others.

The conversation brings together military, law-enforcement, competition, and firearms-industry perspectives.The recurring question is why. Why teach a technique? Why choose a particular piece of equipment? What does a drill actually measure, and how does that result relate to the situation a student is preparing for? Across more than three hours, the panel examines how better explanations, honest feedback, and a willingness to reconsider established habits can improve both individual performance and training programs.

Host: Matt Landfair

Panel:
Steven A.
Aaron Cowan
Tim Herron
Scott Jedlinski
Rick Labistre
Matt Meckley
Adrian O.
Adam Pini
Matt W.

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