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What does it mean when Christ says His kingdom is "not of this world"? In this profound discussion, Joshua Charles and Anthony unpack how this misunderstood verse has shaped—and distorted—the relationship between Christianity and political power throughout history.

The conversation begins with Larry Arnn's claim that "a Christian nation is not possible" and expands into a sweeping historical analysis of how Christendom once embodied the proper relationship between spiritual and temporal authority. For centuries, kings literally knelt before popes—not out of reverence for the man, but as acknowledgment that Christ truly is King of Kings. This proper ordering has been systematically dismantled, first through the Protestant Reformation and continuing through our modern secular age.

We explore how the thousand-year reign described in Revelation 20 may refer to the actual historical period of Christendom, when Christian altars spread throughout the earth and temporal rulers recognized their submission to divine law. The subsequent inversion—where spiritual authority became subordinate to temporal power—has led to our current crisis where states make laws as if above God Himself.

The discussion takes a fascinating turn into eschatology, examining recent developments in Judaism including red heifer sacrifices and Third Temple preparations. Drawing from Church Fathers and Scripture, we consider how these events might connect to prophecies about Antichrist and the eventual reconciliation between Jews and Christians, mirroring Joseph's reunion with his brothers in Genesis.

Throughout this intellectually rich conversation, we maintain that authentic Christian engagement with politics isn't about imposing theocracy, but rather recognizing that all authority—even temporal authority—ultimately comes from Christ, to whom every knee shall bow. This understanding offers profound insight for believers navigating an increasingly post-Christian world.

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