In episode 246 of America Adapts, host Doug Parsons hosts Dr. Shiran Victoria Shen, assistant professor at Washington University in St. Louis, for a closer look at how climate adaptation actually emerges in China. Drawing on her research after the devastating 2021 Henan flood, Shen shows how public demand for adaptation surged—not through climate change language, but through calls for safety, infrastructure, and risk reduction, often using formal government channels. The conversation highlights adaptation as a lived governance issue rather than an ideological one, and surfaces practical lessons about public participation, the limits of top-down approaches, and what governments everywhere tend to respond to when climate risk becomes impossible to ignore.

Transcript of interview here.

Key Themes Covered in This Episode

• How public demand for climate adaptation emerges after extreme disasters
• Why people often ask for adaptation without using "climate change" language
• The 2021 Henan flood as a national turning point for adaptation awareness in China
• Public participation and formal governance channels, including the Local Leaders' Message Board
• Differences between adaptation and mitigation from a governance perspective
• The limits of top-down adaptation and where citizen influence realistically ends
• What adaptation in China reveals about public engagement globally
• Lessons for policymakers, planners, and communicators working outside the U.S.

Links & Resources from This Episode

• Shiran Victoria Shen – Faculty Page (Washington University in St. Louis)
• The 2021 Henan flood increased citizen demand for government-led climate change adaptation in China
• Shiran Victoria Shen – Research & Publications
• Dialogue Earth article: How the Chinese public is engaging in climate adaptation
• China's National Climate Change Adaptation Strategy (latest version)
• Background on the 2021 Henan Flood

For Educators & Students

• This episode is well-suited for courses on climate adaptation, environmental governance, public policy, or comparative politics.
• Key themes include public participation, disaster response, adaptation without climate language, and institutional limits.
• Professors are welcome to assign this episode or excerpts in syllabi.

Who Should Listen to This Episode

• Climate adaptation and resilience practitioners
• Urban and regional planners working on risk, infrastructure, or public engagement
• Researchers and students studying climate governance, adaptation, or comparative policy
• Government staff and policymakers involved in disaster response or long-term planning
• Funders and foundations interested in how public demand shapes adaptation outcomes
• Climate communicators looking to move beyond technical or ideological framing
• Anyone interested in how climate adaptation is unfolding outside the United States

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