An organization that has any ambitions or hopes to scale application deployments across cloud native environments is not going to get very far without automation.

From CI/CD support, increasing application deployment speed  — often across different environments — and maintaining compliance and security, operations teams manually managing these processes is just not humanly possible after a certain point.

In this latest episode of The New Stack Makers podcast,  Abby Kearns, Chief Technology Officer and head of R&D, and Chip Childers, Puppet Chief Architect, discussed what automation for infrastructure management for cloud native deployments means for Puppet and for the IT industry. Alex Williams, founder and publisher of TNS, hosted this interview.