Yascha Mounk and Quico Toro explore what’s holding environmentalists back.

Quico Toro is Director of Climate Repair at the Anthropocene Institute, a contributing editor at Persuasion, and writes the Substack One Percent Brighter.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Quico Toro discuss outdated ideas within environmentalism, why we need to decarbonize—and how technology can save us.

Podcast production by Jack Shields and Leonora Barclay.

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