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Trillions of dollars have poured into ESG and impact investing. So why do we have more pollution, more inequality, and accelerating biodiversity loss than when we started?
In this TBLI Radical Truth episode, Robert Rubinstein sits down with B. Lorraine Smith β writer, researcher, speaker, and one of the most clear-eyed critics of mainstream sustainability. After two decades working with global players in banking, mining, energy, chemicals, food, agriculture, retail, and tech β leading ESG strategy, investor communications, and executive engagement β Lorraine concluded that not only were we not solving the problems, we were making them worse. She stopped working in mainstream sustainability and ESG in 2021. B. Lorraine SmithHer vision is an economy where all businesses, across all industry sectors, can only succeed by enabling society and the biosphere to thrive. B. Lorraine SmithHer radical truth: ESG is not a solution. It is a distraction dressed up in the language of progress.
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The key insight: Despite billions invested in ESG initiatives, we have more pollution, inequality, and biodiversity loss. B. Lorraine SmithThe problem is not a lack of capital or intention β it is that the frameworks guiding that capital were never designed to create the outcomes they promise. Regenerative investment is not a tweak to the existing model. It is a different model entirely.
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π€ About B. Lorraine SmithB. Lorraine Smith worked with global corporations across banking, mining, energy, food, agriculture, retail, and technology for over two decades, leading ESG strategy, stakeholder dialogue, and executive engagement across multiple regions. S B. Lorraine Smithhe sits on the Board of Canadian Business for Social Responsibility and is a member of the Release Council of the Future-Fit Business Benchmark. S Biodiversity for a Livable Climatehe is based in MontrΓ©al and speaks French, Portuguese, and German. John Elkington of Volans describes her as one of the most thoughtful colleagues he has worked with in decades in the sustainability field.
For anyone who suspects that ESG is not delivering what it promises β and wants to understand what would β this episode is essential listening.
TBLI Group is the world's leading ESG and impact investing network β educating, advising, and connecting investors for 25 years.π tbligroup.com
#BLorraineSmith #RegenerativeInvestment #ESG #ImpactInvesting #TBLI #TBLIRadicalTruth #RegenerativeEconomy #SustainableFinance #BeyondESG #IndustrialHealing #SystemsChange #Sustainability #ClimateFaith #BiodiversityLoss #RadicalTruth
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What happens when a 350-year-old bank β still owned by the founding family β decides that capitalism must be redeemed from the inside?
In this TBLI Radical Truth episode, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Alexander S. Hoare β Partner and Director at C. Hoare & Co., the first of the eleventh generation of the family to join the partnership, and a founder partner of Snowball LLP, a leader in the field of social and impact investing. HoaresbankFounded in 1672 by Sir Richard Hoare, C. Hoare & Co. is the UK's oldest privately owned bank β still run on an unlimited liability partnership model, still family-owned, and still guided by a founding ambition: to be good bankers and good citizens. Alexander's life work has been to demonstrate that you don't have to descend to the unacceptable face of capitalism to earn an honest crust. Spears 500His radical truth: impact is not optional β it is what banking was always supposed to be.
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The key insight: In 2017, Alexander predicted that "social investment will be redundant within a generation as all investments will have impact built in." GrokipediaA bank that survived the South Sea Bubble, two world wars, and the 2008 financial crisis has a particular vantage point on what endures. The Hoare family's wager is that the institutions which will still be standing in another 350 years are those that put people and planet first β not last.
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π€ About Alexander S. HoareAlexander Hoare is the first of the eleventh generation of C. Hoare & Co. partners. He graduated from the University of Edinburgh with a B.Com (Hons) in Marketing, worked as a marketing consultant at PA Consulting Group, and served as Chief Executive of C. Hoare & Co. from 2001 to 2009. H PitchBooke is a patron of Royal Trinity Hospice and chairs the trustees of Intermission Youth Theatre. H Hoaresbanke is ranked in the Spear's 500 Top 100 Power List for 2025 as a pioneer in social and impact investing.
For anyone who believes that finance can be a force for genuine good β and wants to understand what that looks like in practice across centuries β this episode is essential listening.
TBLI Group is the world's leading ESG and impact investing network β educating, advising, and connecting investors for 25 years.π tbligroup.com
#AlexanderHoare #CHoareAndCo #SnowballImpact #ImpactInvesting #TBLI #TBLIRadicalTruth #PrivateBanking #ESG #FamilyBusiness #GoldenBottleTrust #ResponsibleInvesting #SustainableFinance #Philanthropy #SDGs #RadicalTruth
America's criminal justice system is cruel, expensive, racist, and broken. One lawyer decided she could no longer save people one by one β and went to find the constituency powerful enough to change the system itself.
In this TBLI Radical Truth episode, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Celia Ouellette β dual US-UK qualified lawyer, former death row defence attorney, and founder of the Responsible Business Initiative for Justice (RBIJ). Celia spent a decade practising as a defence attorney, primarily on capital cases across the United States, constantly fighting a criminal justice system she found cruel, expensive, racist, and broken. Despite working to save people from execution, she could only help individuals one at a time. Real LeadersHer radical truth: saving people one by one is not enough. The only way to fix a broken system is to mobilise the one constituency that lawmakers cannot ignore β business.
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The key insight: Since founding, RBIJ has activated over 600 businesses across 91 campaigns and programmes, partnering with some of the world's most recognised brands. RBIJThe criminal justice system does not exist "on the side" of business β it shapes the talent pool, the community, and the economy every company operates in. When business speaks, lawmakers listen.
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π€ About Celia OuelletteCelia Ouellette is a dual US-UK qualified lawyer who began her career in criminal defence in the United States before joining UK human rights charity Reprieve as a Staff Attorney on their death penalty team. In 2015 she founded The Powell Project, an organisation designed to empower and equip trial teams in capital cases. I RBIJn 2017 she founded RBIJ, which has since partnered with hundreds of companies worldwide to advance fairness and equality in systems of punishment and incarceration.
Real LeadersFor anyone who believes that the 'S' in ESG must include criminal justice β this episode is essential listening.
TBLI Group is the world's leading ESG and impact investing network β educating, advising, and connecting investors for 25 years.π tbligroup.com
#CeliaOuellette #RBIJ #CriminalJusticeReform #ESG #ImpactInvesting #TBLI #TBLIRadicalTruth #FairChanceHiring #DeathPenalty #HumanRights #ResponsibleBusiness #CleanSlate #JusticeReform #SocialJustice #RadicalTruth
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In October 2005, a 150-page legal document was quietly rolled into a UN chamber in New York. Twenty years later, it remains the foundation on which the entire ESG investment industry was built.
In this TBLI Radical Truth episode, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Professor Paul Q. Watchman β the Scottish lawyer who, as Senior Partner at Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer, led the pro bono team that produced The Freshfields Report for UNEP Finance Initiative. The report is credited with revolutionising market practice on the legality of integrating ESG considerations into the investment decision-making of pension funds and other investment houses, and has been said to be the most downloaded report in UN history. Law Society of Scotland Paul Watchman was the first inductee into the TBLI Hall of Fame in 2020. His radical truth: ESG is not optional β it is a fiduciary obligation.
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The key insight: Before the Freshfields Report, pension funds routinely argued that fiduciary duty prevented them from considering ESG factors. Paul Watchman demolished that argument with legal rigour across nine jurisdictions. The report concluded that integrating ESG considerations into investment analysis to more reliably predict financial performance is clearly permissible and arguably required in all jurisdictions. GRC World Forums The question was never whether ESG was legal. The question was whether the industry had the courage to act on it.
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π€ About Professor Paul Q. WatchmanPaul Watchman was named by Ethical Corporation alongside Hank Paulson as one of the six most influential global figures in sustainable finance, and received the Thomson Reuters ESG Leadership Award for Outstanding Contribution to ESG in 2010. Law Society of Scotland He began his legal career in Glasgow acting for the homeless and victims of domestic violence, before becoming a Partner at Freshfields. New Earth Lawyer He served as Special Legal Counsel to UNEP Finance Initiative for nearly 20 years, and in 2020 became the first inductee into the TBLI Hall of Fame. Professor Watchman passed away in 2023. This episode is a tribute to his life's work.
Essential listening for anyone who wants to understand where ESG came from β and what it was always meant to be.
TBLI Group is the world's leading ESG and impact investing network β educating, advising, and connecting investors for 25 years. π tbligroup.com
#PaulWatchman #FreshfieldsReport #ESG #FiduciaryDuty #UNEPFI #TBLI #TBLIRadicalTruth #ResponsibleInvestment #SustainableFinance #ESGLaw #UNPRI #Greenwashing #ESGHistory #ImpactInvesting #SustainableInvesting
Everyone knows Bhutan as the "happiest country in the world." But what if that story is a carefully constructed myth β and behind it lies one of Asia's most ignored human rights crises?
In this TBLI Radical Truth episode, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Dr. Rieki Crins β Dutch cultural anthropologist, one of the world's leading authorities on Bhutan, and the woman the Bhutanese government placed on its blacklist. Rieki first arrived in Bhutan in 1990, living in a remote village in the Paro district. What began as a 27-year love affair with the kingdom slowly became something far more troubling. MediumShe obtained her PhD on Gender and Sustainability in Bhutan at the University of Humanistic Studies, Utrecht, founded the Learning Exchange Foundation, and established the Bongde Institute of Hospitality and Tourism to support unemployed Bhutanese youth. WordpressHer radical truth: Gross National Happiness is a brand β and more than 120,000 people were expelled from the country it was built to sell.
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The key insight: The Bhutanese government denied Southern Bhutanese β many of Nepalese descent β their culture and way of life, and having more than 100,000 people flee the country while acting as if the problem does not exist is a profound disgrace. MediumThe UN and western nations were left to manage the consequences of a crisis that Bhutan created and then refused to acknowledge.
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π€ About Dr. Rieki CrinsDr. Rieki Crins is a cultural anthropologist who has spent decades developing her expertise in Bhutan. She lectures at Oxford University, the University of Amsterdam, and the Siam Society in Bangkok, and is co-founder of TBLI Group together with her husband Robert Rubinstein. S Wordpresshe is the author of Blacklisted in Bhutan and Meeting the "Other", and founded the Learning Exchange Foundation in 2009 to support Bhutanese youth and cross-cultural exchange.
A conversation that challenges one of the most seductive narratives in modern geopolitics. Essential listening.
TBLI Group is the world's leading ESG and impact investing network β educating, advising, and connecting investors for 25 years.π tbligroup.com
#Bhutan #GrossNationalHappiness #HumanRights #RiekiCrins #BhutaneseRefugees #Lhotshampa #TBLI #TBLIRadicalTruth #RefugeeRights #Asia #Geopolitics #Anthropology #BlacklistedInBhutan #HumanRightsCrisis #RadicalTruth
What happens to a financial professional when the products they are asked to sell conflict with the values they actually hold? For many in finance, that tension is never spoken aloud. Dr. Giulio Franzinetti has spent 30 years living it β and now helps others navigate it.
In this TBLI Radical Truth episode, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Dr. Giulio Franzinetti β Italian-born financial services veteran, personal coach, and serial innovator. His career spans Eurobond markets at Prudential Bache, capital markets, investment management in Asia at Indosuez, and International Fund Management Marketing at Banca Intesa. ContactOut Along the way, he worked on one of the most complex portfolio rationalisation challenges in the world β the Catholic Church β and founded the Gum Arabic Fund, an attempt to create a fair trade structure for one of the world's most essential and least understood commodities. His radical truth: the financial sector is full of talented, thoughtful people quietly selling things they don't believe in β and the cost of that silence is paid in more than just money.
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The key insight: The financial sector produces some of the most sophisticated thinkers in any industry. It also produces some of the most profound personal crises around meaning, identity, and integrity β quietly, invisibly, behind well-tailored suits. Giulio Franzinetti has been on both sides of that experience. Now he helps others find their way through it.
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π€ About Dr. Giulio FranzinettiDr. Giulio Franzinetti has over 30 years of experience across Eurobond markets, capital markets, investment management, and international fund management at Banca Intesa. Since 2017 he has been Managing Director of Executive Generation, his personal coaching and advisory practice for corporate and financial sector professionals. ContactOut He has served on boards of directors and advisory boards across multiple industries and is based in the UK.
For anyone in finance who has ever wondered whether there is another way β this episode is essential listening.
TBLI Group is the world's leading ESG and impact investing network β educating, advising, and connecting investors for 25 years.π tbligroup.com
#GiulioFranzinetti #FinancialWellbeing #ValuesAndFinance #ImpactInvesting #TBLI #TBLIRadicalTruth #ExecutiveCoaching #ESG #GumArabicFund #FairTrade #CatholicChurch #BancaIntesa #PurposeDrivenFinance #CorporateCoaching #RadicalTruth
In June 1989, a biology student at Peking University walked out onto Changan Avenue and into history. Thirty-five years later, he is building the future of food β and still fighting for democracy.
In this TBLI Radical Truth episode, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Shen Tong β Chinese dissident, Newsweek Person of the Year 1989, exiled student leader of the Tiananmen Square democracy movement, and serial impact investor with more than 200 investments across regenerative agriculture, healthy food, health and wellness, Web3, and deep tech ventures. WikipediaAfter imprisonment and exile, Shen rebuilt himself as an entrepreneur and investor in the United States β and never stopped asking the harder questions about China, democracy, and the food systems that feed the world. His radical truth: the struggle for people's democracy and the struggle for a regenerative food system are the same struggle. Both are about who holds power, and who pays the price.
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The key insight: Shen Tong founded the Democracy for China Fund in 1990, emphasising building international solidarity for civil society development and rule-of-law reforms rather than direct confrontation. GrokipediaDecades later, his approach to food systems reflects the same philosophy: work at the roots, build coalitions, invest in what is regenerative rather than extractive. From Tiananmen to the food supply chain β the principles do not change.
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π€ About Shen TongShen Tong completed his undergraduate degree at Brandeis University after exile and went on to study PhD programmes at Boston University and Harvard University. He became a serial entrepreneur in the 1990s, co-founding B&B Media and VFinity, before founding Food-X in 2014 and FoodFutureCo in 2015. H ACG Globale appeared in the 2019 PBS/BBC documentary Tiananmen: The People Versus the Party and in The Exiles, which won the Grand Jury Prize at Sundance 2022. H Wikipediae is a board member of Food Tank and author of the memoir Almost a Revolution.
For anyone who wants to understand where China is heading β and where our food systems must go β this episode is essential listening.
TBLI Group is the world's leading ESG and impact investing network β educating, advising, and connecting investors for 25 years.π tbligroup.com
#ShenTong #Tiananmen #ChinaDemocracy #FoodFutureCo #FoodX #ImpactInvesting #TBLI #TBLIRadicalTruth #RegenerativeAgriculture #FoodTech #FoodSystems #ChineseDissident #Democracy #FoodTank #RadicalTruth
What if the green energy revolution is not saving the planet β but just replacing one form of destruction with another? And what if the people saying so are lifelong environmentalists?
In this special panel episode of TBLI Radical Truth, Robert Rubinstein convenes an expert discussion around Planet of the Humans β the incendiary documentary directed by Jeff Gibbs and executive produced by Michael Moore. The film takes a critical look at the mainstream environmental movement, questioning its leaders' decision to partner with billionaires and corporations, and challenges the idea that renewable energy technology is the solution to climate change. WikipediaIt claims the carbon footprint of renewable energy is comparable to fossil fuels when taking into account all stages of production β and argues that "less must be the new more" if humankind is to survive. WikipediaThe film has been praised by some, condemned by climate scientists as dangerously misleading, and watched by millions. Our panel is here to go further than the controversy β and ask what is actually true.
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The key insight: Planet of the Humans rightly argues that infinite growth on a finite planet is "suicide" β but its bogus claims about renewable energy risk overshadowing that message. The ConversationThe film's greatest service may not be its specific arguments β many of which rely on outdated data β but its provocation: that the environmental movement has become too comfortable, too corporate, and too reluctant to question its own sacred cows. That conversation is long overdue.
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π€ About Jeff GibbsJeff Gibbs is the director, writer, and producer of Planet of the Humans, born in Flint, Michigan. A long-time collaborator with Michael Moore, he co-produced Fahrenheit 9/11 β the largest box-office documentary of all time β and has been, since then, singularly focused on the fate of the Earth and humanity. * LastborninthewildernessPlanet of the Humans* has been viewed over eight million times on YouTube.
For anyone who cares about the future of the planet β and is willing to sit with uncomfortable questions β this episode is essential listening.
TBLI Group is the world's leading ESG and impact investing network β educating, advising, and connecting investors for 25 years.π tbligroup.com
#PlanetOfTheHumans #JeffGibbs #MichaelMoore #RenewableEnergy #ClimateChange #TBLI #TBLIRadicalTruth #Degrowth #Sustainability #ClimateDebate #SolarEnergy #WindEnergy #ESG #GreenEconomy #RadicalTruth
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What if the most radical thing a business could do is refuse to grow? What if hacking a company's security systems and hacking the logic of venture capitalism require exactly the same mindset?
In this TBLI Radical Truth episode, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Dr. Melanie Rieback β professional hacker, cybersecurity pioneer, and one of the most provocative social entrepreneurs in Europe. She is CEO and co-founder of Radically Open Security, the world's first not-for-profit cybersecurity company, and of Nonprofit Ventures, a Post Growth startup incubator. She teaches Post Growth Entrepreneurship at the University of Amsterdam Business School and is a Fellow of the Post Growth Institute. SingularityRadically Open Security donates 90% of its profits to NLnet β a foundation supporting open internet and digital rights β and has donated over one million euros to date. SURFHer radical truth: business is one of the most effective forms of activism. And the Silicon Valley model is not a feature β it is a bug.
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The key insight: When Melanie told a venture capitalist she would donate 90% of profits to charity, he said: "Either you are crazy or you are a genius." SURFTen years later, the company is thriving β a preferred vendor to governments and global NGOs, built without a single euro of venture capital and without ever compromising its mission. The Silicon Valley model is not the only model. It is just the one with the best marketing.
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π€ About Dr. Melanie RiebackDr. Melanie Rieback is a former Assistant Professor at the Free University of Amsterdam, where she developed the RFID Virus and RFID Guardian, winning IEEE Percom Best Paper and USENIX Lisa Best Paper awards. She previously led ING Bank's Cyber Crime Expertise and Response Team. S SafetyDetectiveshe was named Most Innovative IT Leader of the Netherlands by CIO Magazine in 2017, and one of the 9 Most Innovative Women in the European Union in 2019.
SingularityFor anyone who suspects that the problem with capitalism is its business model β this episode is essential listening.
TBLI Group is the world's leading ESG and impact investing network β educating, advising, and connecting investors for 25 years.π tbligroup.com
#MelanieRieback #RadicallyOpenSecurity #PostGrowth #SocialEntrepreneurship #TBLI #TBLIRadicalTruth #DegrowthEconomics #StewardOwnership #DoughnutEconomics #BusinessActivism #Cybersecurity #NonprofitVentures #SiliconValley #ImpactInvesting #RadicalTruth
The financial system is the most powerful force on Earth. It can accelerate the climate crisis β or fund the solutions. It can entrench poverty and inequality β or dismantle them. The question is not whether finance shapes the world. The question is: who decides how?
TBLI Radical Truth is the podcast that cuts through the noise, the greenwash, and the comfortable half-truths of mainstream finance. Hosted by Robert Rubinstein β founder of TBLI Group, the world's leading ESG and impact investing network β this show brings together the thinkers, investors, activists, scientists, entrepreneurs, and whistleblowers who are asking the questions that the financial sector would rather not answer.
TBLI Group is a renowned global network dedicated to sustainable finance and investment, empowering investors to achieve financial returns while making a positive social and environmental impact. TBLI Group Founded in Amsterdam in 1998, TBLI has spent over 25 years mobilising capital for ESG and impact investing β advising the European Commission, organising the world's leading responsible investment conference, and building a global community of investors who believe that a truly sound investment provides not just financial rewards, but social and environmental ones too. Wikipedia
In each episode, Robert sits down with thought leaders β some famous, some not yet β for honest, unscripted conversations about the real state of sustainable finance. No promotional fluff. No comfortable consensus. Just radical truth.
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The big question we keep returning to: Can we create an economy based on wellbeing β not just wealth? Can the financial system be made to work for all people, all species, and all future generations?
TBLI puts forward the notion that a truly sound investment is one that provides not just financial rewards, but social and environmental ones too. Speakers Academy After 25 years of building that case, Robert Rubinstein is still not done making it β because the stakes have never been higher.
Subscribe. Share. And if something in this podcast makes you uncomfortable β good. That means it's working.
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