Episode 224 of the Sports Illustrated Media Podcast features two interviews. First up is a conversation with columnist, Ray Ratto. Following Ratto, MLB Network’s Lauren Shehadi and Robert Flores join the podcast.

Ratto talks about being laid off from his job at NBC Bay Area in January, the state of the sports media business, the problem with podcasts, the Athletic’s business model, Twitter, why he hates compliments and much more.

Shehadi and Flores discuss their daily show, “MLB Central,” how MLB can capture a younger audience, Mike Trout’s marketability, bat flips, personalities of baseball players and more.

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