In this special live edition, we’re joined by Ged Mason OBE, CEO of Morson Group, for a deep dive into what it really means to be a deal maker in today’s recruitment landscape.

From his early days to building a billion-dollar powerhouse, Ged shares how he approaches relationships, opportunities, and big decisions – with the kind of insight you only get from years at the top.

This is a rare and honest conversation with one of the most respected leaders in the business.

Recorded live at Emerge 2025 and hosted by Lesley Horsburgh of APSCo Australia and Paul Masters from Sovereign Private.

Welcome to Deal Makers – the podcast where recruitment meets real-world M&A.

In this episode, we unpack the strategy behind some of the industry’s most talked-about deals – from billion-dollar healthcare mergers to niche perm businesses commanding sky-high multiples.

Featuring Lesley Horsburgh from APSCo Australia and M&A expert Paul Masters, this is Episode 2 of Deal Makers.

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Join Paul Masters from Sovereign Private and Lesley Horsburgh from APSCo Australia as they unpack the big moves in professional staffing M&A. 

Each month, we'll be diving into what's happening in the market - who's buying and where the deals are landing, how to get your business exit ready and the standout deals catching Paul's eye.

Listen in to our first Deal Makers episode here via Recruitment Down Under - or watch the video podcast here

🎙️ Welcome to Recruitment Down Under – brought to you by APSCo Australia.

In this episode, we're diving into The Complete Recruiter – a brand-new training program designed specifically for recruitment professionals.

You’ll hear from Russell Webb of Claverdon Consulting and Sophie Robertson from Younique Coaching – two experts who’ve brought their decades of experience together to create an 8-part series exclusively for APSCo members aimed at boosting capability, consistency, and confidence across the industry.

We’ll unpack what’s in the program, who it’s for, and how it supports both new consultants and experienced recruiters looking to refresh their skills. Plus, we explore some key themes – like the differences between temp and perm desks, the challenges of dual desking, and how mindset plays a huge role in recruitment success.

Whether you’re a team leader, a business owner, or a recruiter yourself – this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

In this podcast episode, Lesley Horsburgh is joined by a very special guest on Recruitment Down Under - APSCo Global CEO Ann Swain, to discuss the European recruitment market and provide insights into how UK recruitment firms are responding within the current UK business environment.

Thank you for listening to Recruitment Down Under and now here’s our host Lesley Horsburgh.

Welcome to Recruitment Down Under. This episode features Joe Duffy from TargetRecruit Australia. Joe and APSCo's Lesley Horsburgh discuss the CRM market, Salesforce benefits, project management, collaboration, AI in Salesforce, and overall recruitment trends. 

This episode is packed with expert advice and practical tips for those looking to successfully master their CRM projects.

Unlock the secrets to transforming your recruitment strategies with Helen McGuire, the CEO and co-founder of Diversely (acquired by the Access Group n 2023), to uncover the hidden power of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DE&I) in the recruitment and staffing industry.

With insights from the Access Group's eye-opening report, "Proving the Diversity Business Case," Helen reveals how well-executed DE&I initiatives can dramatically enhance business performance and talent pipelines.

Please join our host, APSCo Australia MD, Lesley Horsburgh and thank you for listening to Recruitment Down Under.

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The opportunity is huge for recruitment agencies looking to enter the US market.

Today’s guest, PGC have been the go-to partner for recruitment founders looking to launch and scale in the US staffing market for over 20 years.

In today's podcast, we chat with PGC’s Clarke Bowles to find out how Australian founders can gain access to the world’s biggest economy.

From tips on where to get started and how to enter, to the nuances and differences of recruiting in the US.

Please join Lesley Horsburgh and Clarke Bowles and thank you for listening to Recruitment Down Under.

The Recruitment Company recently released its 2024 edition of The Great Big Recruitment Industry Survey.

Armed with the knowledge and feedback gained from nearly 1000 participants, The Recruitment Company presents an interesting snapshot of the recruitment industry's current challenges and impact on the market. The mission? To make people enjoy the recruitment experience again.

This survey provides invaluable insights on what people truly love and (quite passionately) dislike about working with recruiters, recruitment agencies and internal talent acquisition teams.

Please join APSCo Australia MD, Lesley Horsburgh and Geoff Millar, CEO at The Recruitment Company.

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In this episode we speak with EOS business coach Colin Cuthbert who tells his story of a critical turning point in his life that led to a deep, personal transformation. 

Colin reflects on his purpose as a business leader and owner, and the lessons he’s learned and is now passing on as part of his  journey.

In this open and honest discussion with Lesley Horsburgh, Colin goes on to discuss how business leaders can find solutions to their needs by embracing vulnerability, being open to guidance and self-reflection, and mindful of their own resistance to change.

Please join Lesley and Colin – and thank you for listening to Recruitment Down Under.