In this episode of The New Stack Makers, we feature a rapid-fire introduction into not only the ways in which Red Hat has utilized the power of open source to create and improve OpenStack, but how containers are shaping application development and developer workflows in production. The New Stack Founder Alex Williams sat down for a breakout-style podcast with Whitehurst to get his thoughts on these issues and more as Red Hat continues to blaze forward with OpenStack and OpenShift containers.