In this special episode, Dinesh is in studio with January 6 political prisoner Matthew da Silva, just out of prison thanks to a pardon from President Trump.  Prior to his incarceration Matt did research for Dinesh, and for this podcast.  Dinesh and Matt have a candid one-on-one conversation about January 6, the experience of imprisonment, and the struggle of the human spirit under conditions of injustice and persecution.

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