Reframing Perspectives with Payal Beri, PhD

Play might seem childish, but it can also be the secret to overcoming burnout and fostering growth in the workplace and beyond. In this episode, Dr. Payal Beri sits down with Gary Ware, founder of Breakthrough Play, TEDx speaker, and the self-proclaimed "King of Play." Gary shares his powerful journey from burnout to breakthrough, revealing how rediscovering play through improv helped him heal, reconnect with joy, and build resilience.

In this episode:

00:00 Introduction and First Impressions

01:06 The Power of Play: Gary's Journey

03:33 Understanding Burnout and Rediscovering Play

05:27 The Role of Improv in Healing

10:45 The Science Behind Play and Creativity

12:29 Overcoming Resistance to Play in the Workplace

16:21 Navigating Vulnerability and Competitiveness

21:23 Creating a Playful Mindset

24:42 Overcoming Introversion Through Guided Play

25:24 The Complexity and Joy of Play

25:50 The Power of Fun: Play, Connection, and Flow

26:26 Incorporating Play in Team Development

26:56 The VUCA World: Training Through Play

27:57 Life Skills Learned Through Play

30:29 The Multitasking Challenge

33:30 A Manager's Realization Through Play

37:08 The Importance of Facilitated Play

39:29 Play as a Tool for Workplace Connection

43:26 The Infinite Game: Avoiding Burnout

46:58 The Healing Power of Play

48:06 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Together, Payal and Gary explore the science of play, how it dismantles stress, and why playfulness isn't just for kids — it's a tool for personal growth, team connection, and sustainable success. Through the episode, they get into the hidden cost of hustle culture, the importance of vulnerability, and practical ways to incorporate play into your daily life and work.

Ready to get yourself out of survival mode and reconnect with your creative self? This conversation is a reminder that play might be the missing piece you need to thrive!

More From Gary:

https://www.breakthroughplay.com/and-then-play-at-work

https://www.linkedin.com/in/garyware

https://www.instagram.com/garyware/

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Success doesn't always mean happiness, and sometimes it can actually be the thing getting in the way of your well-being. In this raw and powerful episode, Amanda Kolbye shares her journey of building a multi-seven-figure business — and the moment she chose to walk away from it all.

In this episode:

00:00 Introduction and Initial Conversation

00:14 Amanda's Bold Life Choices

01:21 The Importance of Personal Truth

03:16 Childhood and Early Influences

07:07 Nomadic Lifestyle and Sense of Belonging

10:32 Realities of a Nomadic Life

14:43 Burnout and Personal Struggles

18:42 Facing Deep-Rooted Issues

25:28 A Transformative Journey

31:55 Empathy and Self-Work

33:52 The Power of Somatic Therapy

35:11 Facing the Crumbling of Identity

36:12 Navigating Financial and Practical Constraints

36:57 Exploring Alternative Healing Modalities

41:03 Impact on Relationships and Personal Growth

52:14 Rebirth and Intentional Living

56:12 Final Reflections and Future Intentions

In the episode, Amanda shares her story from traveling the world while running her company to facing deep-rooted trauma, burnout, and a painful family reckoning. She opens up about the reality of chasing freedom and the price of relentless hustle.

Dr. Payal and Amanda explore the hidden toll of burnout and why external success doesn't guarantee inner peace. They also discuss practical steps for navigating healing, acknowledging that the path forward looks different for each individual.

This episode is your invitation to pause, reflect, and start redefining success on your terms. Tune in, and make sure to leave a rating and review wherever you listen!

More from Amanda:

https://www.instagram.com/amandakolbye/

https://amandakolbye.com

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If we want lasting change, we need to make impact work more sustainable. In this episode, Dr. Payal Beri is joined by impact leader Lis Best to explore the emotional toll of change-making and how to sustain yourself in the fight for a better world.

In this episode:

00:00 Introduction to Lis Best and Setting the Stage

00:30 The Reality of Impact Work

03:04 Early Career Challenges and Breakthroughs

04:39 Navigating Corporate Sustainability

08:53 The Emotional Toll and Burnout

13:54 Strategies for Sustainable Impact

25:47 Redefining Ambition and Success

35:18 Personal Reflections and Future Directions

44:39 Lis's Journey to Motherhood

49:59 Conclusion and Contact Information

In the episode, Lis shares her journey from corporate sustainability to building a community for women driving impact, unpacking the harsh realities of burnout, the hidden cost of caring deeply, and why change so often feels like an uphill battle.

Throughout the conversation, Payal and Lis explore the truth about working in sustainability and ESG, and Lis explains the challenge of influencing change in corporate systems, especially when people seem indifferent or resistant. She also shares invaluable insights on emotional resilience, and emphasizes the power of community, reminding us that no one should carry the weight of the world alone — and that collective support is key to creating sustainable change.

If you’ve ever felt exhausted or disillusioned while trying to make a difference, this episode is for you! Lis’s wisdom and lived experience will inspire you to keep going — without sacrificing your well-being in the process. Make sure you're subscribed to the podcast to keep catching impactful conversations like this each week!

More from Lis:

https://girlsclubcollective.co/community-power-hour

https://elisabethbest.com/

https://www.instagram.com/lis.best/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/elisabethbest/

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What if burnout isn’t a sign of failure, but an invitation to heal and lead differently?

In this episode of Reframing Perspectives, Dr. Payal Beri sits down with leadership coach and healing facilitator Kelly Campbell to discuss her experience with burnout and the power of embracing embodiment, energy work, and healing.

In this episode:

00:00 Introduction to Kelly Campbell

01:17 Early Life and Initial Resistance

02:51 The Hustle Culture and Burnout

05:36 Hitting Rock Bottom

07:41 Exploring New Paths

13:15 Discovering Metacognition

17:36 Embracing the Woo

20:43 Coaching and Healing Work

29:19 Embracing Softness in Professional Relationships

29:42 Mirroring Clients' Experiences

30:53 The Challenge of Emotional Processing

31:41 Redefining Emotional Expression

33:05 The Grief of Personal Evolution

33:47 The Journey of Grief and Healing

38:26 Symbiotic Healing in Therapy

44:37 Healing in Community

49:33 The Power of Self-Compassion

52:11 Reframing Perspectives: Our Capacity to Love

In the episode, Kelly reflects on their early resistance to spirituality, the wake-up call of burnout, and the pivotal moment that shattered their doubts. They also discuss how trauma-informed leadership coaching helps high-achievers and business leaders shift from rigid success metrics to a more embodied and sustainable way of leading.

Payal and Kelly discuss grief, reinvention, and why healing can't be done in a silo. If you’ve ever felt trapped by expectations or struggled to embrace a more intuitive path, this episode is a must-listen.

More from Kelly:

https://klcampbell.com/retreats/

https://www.instagram.com/kelly.l.campbell/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellylcampbell/

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In a world that feels more divided than ever, it's crucial that we embrace empathy.

In this first episode of Reframing Perspectives, Dr. Payal Beri is joined by Shola Richards, author of Civil Unity, to discuss the importance of civility, kindness, and empathy to heal the deep divisions in our workplaces, communities, and personal relationships.

In this episode:

00:00 Introduction and Warm Welcome

00:26 Discovering Shola's Work

01:19 Shola's Personal Journey with Bullying

01:58 The Turning Point: Workplace Bullying

03:49 Starting the Mission: Writing and Advocacy

05:35 Understanding Bullies and Empathy

09:33 Navigating Divisive Times

13:49 The Impact of Constant Information

18:10 Practical Tips for Maintaining Calm

20:31 The Marathon of Kindness Work

21:44 Facing Overwhelming Challenges

22:26 Balancing Empathy and Self-Care

23:31 Contentment vs. Ambition

25:02 The Struggle for Authenticity

30:37 Navigating Toxic Work Environments

32:16 The Power of Kindness and Empathy

34:40 Overcoming Fear and Division

40:47 Practical Steps to Make a Difference

44:56 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

In the episode, Shola opens up about his personal journey from being bullied as a child and in the workplace to becoming a global advocate for kindness, empathy, and civil unity. He shares insights on overcoming toxic environments, navigating divisive conversations, and why kindness is more than just “being nice” - it’s a revolutionary tool for change.

Payal and Shola discuss the impacts of the 24-hour news cycle and social media on mental and emotional well-being, highlighting the importance of setting boundaries, especially as changemakers and leaders. Tune in to the episode for a fresh perspective on how kindness and empathy can help you navigate divisive conversations in your own life. Don't forget to leave a rating and review wherever you listen!

More from Shola:

https://civilunity.com/

https://sholarichards.com/

https://www.instagram.com/sholarichards/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/sholarichards/

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What if art and music could transform the way we lead, connect, and engage with others? In this episode, Adam Rosendahl, founder of Late Nite Art®, joins Dr. Payal Beri to share how creative expression can break down barriers, foster deeper connections, and reshape leadership in the workplace.

In the episode:

00:00 Introduction and First Impressions

00:44 The Power of Late Nite Art

02:09 Adam's Artistic Journey

05:33 Creating Transformative Experiences

09:31 From Youth Programs to Corporate Settings

13:35 Breaking Down Barriers with Art

19:05 Impactful Stories and Real Connections

23:50 The Societal Shift Through Art

26:03 The Power of Connection and Respect

26:48 The Transformative Experience of Music

27:58 Curating Music for Emotional Impact

29:42 Music as a Tool for Leadership Development

32:48 The Unifying Force of Music

37:18 Integrating Art and Business

41:10 The Importance of Vulnerability in Leadership

48:13 Expanding Late Nite Art's Impact

49:06 Final Thoughts and Reflections

In the episode, Adam shares is innovative approach to helping leaders and teams worldwide move beyond rigid structures, embrace vulnerability, and create more authentic relationships - all through the power of art and music.

Together, Adam and Payal explore how creativity can enhance leadership and team dynamics, the role of music in shifting perspectives and engagement, and why storytelling and self-expression are essential for effective leadership. They also discuss the broader impact of connection-driven leadership in today’s divided world.

Whether you consider yourself creative or not, this conversation will challenge the way you think about leadership, collaboration, and human connection. Tune in, and don't forget to leave a rating and review to show your support!

More from Adam:

https://www.lateniteart.com/ttt

https://www.instagram.com/theadamrosendahl/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamrosendahl/

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🎙️ Welcome to Reframing Perspectives – A Podcast That Challenges How You Think

Ever feel like conversations are harder than they should be? Like the world is getting heavier, and navigating human connection is more exhausting than ever? Reframing Perspectives is here to change that.

Hosted by Dr. Payal Beri, this podcast explores self-awareness, empathy, and transformational growth through raw, thought-provoking conversations. Whether it’s breaking down the beliefs that no longer serve us or challenging the way we see ourselves and others, each episode offers a shift in perspective—one that just might change everything.

Some episodes will hit you in the gut. Some will make you laugh. And others? They’ll completely reframe the way you see the world.

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✅ Real, unfiltered conversations that challenge assumptions
✅ A new lens to navigate relationships, work, and life

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