Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen break down everything that has happened since HHS Secretary RFK Jr. took office, tracking a timeline of claims, policy changes, and appointments that affect the autism community. From the WHO reaffirming no causal link between vaccines and autism, to the quiet removal of FDA web pages warning against dangerous treatments like chelation therapy, to the stacking of the Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee with anti-vaccine activists — the hosts follow the facts and the money. Along the way, they address Lucavorin, ultra-processed food rhetoric, and what "buyer beware" really means for autism families right now.

Key Takeaways

• The WHO reviewed 31 studies from multiple countries and reaffirmed no causal link between vaccines and autism spectrum disorder.
• An FDA page warning against dangerous autism "treatments" — including chelation and stem cell therapy — was quietly removed.
• A Lancet study confirmed Tylenol use during pregnancy does not increase autism risk; there was no public HHS response.
• Lucavorin (leucovorin calcium) was FDA-approved only for a rare hereditary disorder — not autism — and off-label use at high doses can be dangerous.
• The Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee was reconstituted with 21 new members, largely anti-vaccine activists, excluding established scientific and advocacy leadership.
• Mercury was removed from childhood vaccines in 2000–2001, yet several new committee members continue to cite mercury as a cause of autism.
• Kennedy's "Take Back America" tour criticized ultra-processed food while taking no regulatory action against the food industry.
• NIH funding is shifting away from universities in blue states; a significant portion is expected to fund anti-vaccine studies.
• RFK Jr. has numerous vested financial interests, including potential legal referral fees, MAHA trademark filings, and ties to the $6.3 trillion wellness industry.
• The hosts credit Kennedy for stating on record that screen time does not cause autism and that health decisions should be made with physicians.

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Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen tackle controversial parenting scenarios from autism Facebook groups, exploring real dilemmas that leave parents stumped. When a 13-year-old autistic child steals vodka to share with friends, is it a consequence problem or a safety issue? The hosts dissect problematic advice about validating risky behavior and discuss why understanding a child's developmental level matters more than imposing consequences. They also address therapy conflicts when ABA and speech therapy clash, the pressure around "please and thank you," navigating gift-giving with family members, dealing with spouses who won't adapt their parenting approach, and the non-negotiable priority of keeping children safe from danger.

Key Takeaways:

• When an autistic child doesn't understand stealing, start with teaching the concept rather than imposing consequences
• Autistic teens are vulnerable to peer manipulation and may take dangerous risks to fit in with friends
• Before implementing consequences, assess the child's developmental level and what they're actually capable of understanding
• Team meetings are essential when different therapists use conflicting approaches for the same child
• Social norms like "please and thank you" should be taught when developmentally appropriate, not forced prematurely
• Get ahead of gift-giving situations by preparing family members and considering opening presents privately
• When safety is at stake, parents have permission to stop dangerous behavior first and teach later
• Spouse alignment on autism parenting is critical; validate concerns while working toward solutions together
• Consider whether peer relationships are healthy or exploitative when children engage in risky behaviors
• Not all autism parenting advice from online groups is appropriate, even from moderators

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Julianna and Kelley dissect "An Inconvenient Study," a documentary from the creators of Vaxxed that claims 54% of American children have chronic illnesses caused by vaccines. The film features Del Bigtree's undercover footage of a Henry Ford Health researcher who conducted a flawed retrospective study comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated children. The hosts connect this documentary's rhetoric to RFK Jr's current HHS proposals for similar Medicare/Medicaid studies, explaining why retrospective designs cannot establish causation and are vulnerable to bias. They emphasize the importance of consulting pediatricians rather than falling for fear-based messaging.

Key Takeaways:

• "An Inconvenient Study" claims all childhood vaccines cause chronic illness in 54% of children
• The documentary centers on a retrospective study that Henry Ford Health rejected for not meeting methodological standards
• Retrospective studies look at existing data but cannot prove causation and are vulnerable to bias
• RFK Jr is proposing similar retrospective studies using Medicare/Medicaid data, which isn't a representative population
• The documentary uses the same rhetoric Kennedy employs about "balance" and hearing anti-vaccine voices
• Scaling up a flawed study design doesn't fix its fundamental problems
• The film is part of the autism industrial complex fear mongering
• Anti-vaccine movement is gaining traction by creating skepticism about settled science
• Parents should consult their pediatricians about vaccine decisions, not documentaries

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Getting an autism diagnosis can feel like the end of a journey, but it's actually the starting line. Kelley and Julianna walk through the full diagnostic process, from the first red flags to navigating medical diagnoses versus educational evaluations, and why each step matters. They share their own early experiences, break down the difference between screening and formal evaluation, and explain why self-diagnosis simply isn't enough. The conversation covers comorbid diagnoses, disclosure decisions, and practical first steps every family needs to take after receiving a diagnosis.

Key Takeaways

• The three steps of autism diagnosis are monitoring, screening, and formal assessment. Don't skip any of them.
• Self-diagnosis and online quizzes are a starting point only. A formal evaluation by a trained professional is essential.
• A medical autism diagnosis does not automatically qualify a child for school-based services under IDEA. Eligibility is determined by a team.
• 70% of individuals with ASD have at least one comorbid psychiatric disorder; 40% have two or more.
• Comorbid diagnoses like anxiety, OCD, and ADHD often surface over time and need to be revisited regularly.
• Late diagnosis as a teen or adult can provide meaningful self-understanding and relief.
• Treat the post-diagnosis process like a second job. Stay organized, maintain files, and collect every evaluation.
• Have more than one person fill out developmental questionnaires to get a fuller picture of your child.
• Disclosure is a personal decision with no single right answer. Do what works for your child and your family.
• Speed to acceptance and learning to manage anxiety are not one-time tasks. They run through every stage of this journey.

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Refrigerator Moms is sponsored by Brain Performance Technologies, a specialty mental health clinic that offers neuromodulation treatments including SAINT (Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy) for treatment-resistant depression and major depressive disorder, as well as MERT (Magnetic e-resonance therapy) for autistic people aged three or older. Learn more at https://brainperformancetechnologies.com

Julianna and Kelley examine the "Autism Industrial Complex" through the lens of Mattel's new Autistic Barbie doll. Drawing from a 2022 book, they break down how autism has become a multi-billion dollar business driven by hope, fear, and claims of science. The hosts critique how ABA therapy, genetic research, and products like Autistic Barbie perpetuate this system while often excluding severely autistic individuals from the conversation. They discuss vaccination fearmongering, corporate tokenism, and whether interventions are truly helpful or just profitable. With their signature honesty, they challenge listeners to question what's driving autism advocacy and research.

Key Takeaways:

• The Autism Industrial Complex operates on three pillars: hope, fear, and truth (science rhetoric)
• ABA therapy evolved from acknowledging limitations to promising normalization
• Autism Awareness Month shifted to Autism Acceptance Month, reflecting changing narratives
• Anti-vaccination movements exploit fear to drive the autism prevention industry
• Severely autistic individuals are consistently excluded from autism advocacy conversations
• Autistic Barbie was developed with the Autism Self Advocacy Network over 18 months
• Mattel donated only 1,000 Autism Barbies to children's hospitals
• The book suggests avoiding diagnosis and interventions to escape the industrial complex
• Parents shouldn't bankrupt themselves pursuing interventions driven by hope or fear
• Being part of the autism conversation inevitably makes you part of the industrial complex

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Refrigerator Moms is sponsored by Brain Performance Technologies, a specialty mental health clinic that offers neuromodulation treatments including SAINT (Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy) for treatment-resistant depression and major depressive disorder, as well as MeRT (Magnetic e-resonance therapy) for autistic people aged three or older. Learn more at https://brainperformancetechnologies.com

Julianna and Kelley tackle three critical parenting challenges from social media questions. They explore practical solutions for hygiene resistance, including making bath time fun rather than punitive. The hosts address inappropriate vaccination questions directed at autism parents, discussing timing, sensitivity, and respect. They examine the growing concern around Roblox addiction, sharing evidence that unlimited screen time approaches are failing. The episode emphasizes building positive routines early, avoiding battles that create trauma, and recognizing when popular platforms pose genuine risks to children's regulation and safety.

Key Takeaways

• Make hygiene routines fun and collaborative rather than battles
• Start positive bath/shower habits early, before adolescence
• Vaccination questions to autism parents are insensitive and inappropriate
• Unlimited screen time philosophy is proving problematic
• Roblox shows clear addictive patterns in many autistic children
• Playing games together provides better oversight than unrestricted access
• Platform safety concerns extend beyond just content to user demographics
• Regulation tools like showers can benefit autistic children long-term

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Refrigerator Moms is sponsored by Brain Performance Technologies, a specialty mental health clinic that offers neuromodulation treatments including SAINT (Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy) for treatment-resistant depression and major depressive disorder, as well as MeRT (Magnetic e-resonance therapy) for autistic people aged three or older. Learn more at https://brainperformancetechnologies.com

Hosts Kelley Jensen and Julianna Scott explore the overlooked mental health struggles of fathers raising autistic children. While extensive research exists on mothers' mental health, fathers remain understudied with only small sample sizes available. The conversation reveals how dads often take a backseat to their partners' needs, struggle with stigma around seeking help, and approach autism acceptance differently than mothers. The episode emphasizes the importance of communication between spouses and practical strategies for supporting fathers' wellbeing.

Key Takeaways:

• Very limited research exists on fathers' mental health compared to mothers 

• Fathers often prioritize their partner's mental health needs over their own 

• Men typically become more goal-oriented after accepting their child's diagnosis 

• Fathers focus on long-term independence goals while mothers handle daily challenges 

• Stigma around men's mental health prevents fathers from seeking support 

• Communication and validation between spouses is crucial for both partners 

• Fathers can benefit from participating in their child's therapy sessions 

• Waiting room connections with other dads provide valuable informal support

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Refrigerator Moms is sponsored by Brain Performance Technologies, a specialty mental health clinic that offers neuromodulation treatments including SAINT (Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy) for treatment-resistant depression and major depressive disorder, as well as MeRT (Magnetic e-resonance therapy) for autistic people aged three or older. Learn more at https://brainperformancetechnologies.com

Screens have become an unavoidable part of modern parenting, but what happens when unlimited screen time becomes the default for autistic children? Julianna and Kelley explore why screen time is being compared to smoking, examining the advice circulating in PDA communities that promotes unlimited screen access as emotional regulation. They break down the neurological impact of constant digital stimulation, discuss why screens interfere with critical skill development, and share practical strategies for establishing healthier boundaries. From parental modeling to age-appropriate limits, they offer actionable steps to help families navigate screen use without falling into the addiction trap.

Key Takeaways:

• Screen addiction trains developing brains to expect immediate gratification, undermining patience and emotional regulation skills.
• PDA resources often promote unlimited screen time publicly but recommend removal when addiction develops.
• Text-based communication prevents autistic children from practicing crucial emotional recognition and social skills.
• Online friendships pose safety risks and don't provide the real-world social practice children need.
• Parents must model healthy screen habits before expecting children to develop them.
• Starting with zero screen time before age two creates the strongest foundation for healthy limits.
• Curating content, using time-limiting apps, and removing phones from bedrooms are essential strategies.
• Screens can be valuable tools for specific purposes like FaceTime with relatives or educational content.
• Earned screen time should be the highest value reward in your parenting toolkit.
• Managing screen time is a lifetime skill that requires ongoing parental guidance.

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Julianna and Kelley discuss the National Council on Severe Autism's position statement advocating for severe or profound autism to be recognized as its own diagnosis, separate from the broader autism spectrum. They explore the evolution from DSM-IV's three-tier classification system to DSM-5's umbrella approach, examining how this change has impacted service allocation and representation. The conversation highlights the tension between neurodiversity advocacy and the needs of profoundly autistic individuals requiring 24/7 care, addressing housing crises, caregiver shortages, and the dominance of higher-functioning voices in autism discourse. The episode concludes with a lighthearted exploration of "outroverts."

Key Takeaways

• The National Council on Severe Autism advocates for severe/profound autism to be its own diagnosis, distinct from the broader spectrum
• DSM-5's umbrella approach consolidated previous categories (Asperger's, PDD-NOS, classic autism) into one autism spectrum disorder with levels 1-3
• Severe autism is qualitatively different, not merely a matter of degree on a linear scale
• Individuals with severe autism typically have significant social communication impairments, cognitive deficits, challenges with basic living skills, sensory dysregulation, and need 24/7 supervision
• Parents of profoundly autistic individuals feel the conversation is dominated by higher-functioning voices and disability advocacy focused on independence
• Competition for limited services creates challenges when level 1 and level 3 individuals are competing for the same therapists and resources
• Popular culture representation of high-functioning autism has positive aspects but can overshadow the needs of the severe autism community
• Current group home options are inadequate, and alternative housing solutions face practical barriers including housing and care worker shortages

Refrigerator Moms is sponsored by Brain Performance Technologies, a specialty mental health clinic that offers neuromodulation treatments including SAINT (Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy) for treatment-resistant depression and major depressive disorder, as well as MERT (Magnetic e-resonance therapy) for autistic people aged three or older. Learn more at https://brainperformancetechnologies.com

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Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen tackle the unique challenges of holiday celebrations with autistic children. From routine disruptions to the complexity of Santa Claus traditions, the hosts share personal stories of aggression, anxiety, and family adjustments. They discuss practical strategies including one-on-one visits, managing expectations, and creating new traditions that prioritize peace over perfection. The conversation offers honest insights into traveling with autistic children and the liberating reality that families can define their own holiday experiences without conforming to traditional expectations.

Key Takeaways

• Holidays break routines, which can trigger challenging behaviors in autistic children including aggression and anxiety.
• One-on-one interactions often work better than large family gatherings for autistic children.
• The concept of Santa can be particularly difficult for autistic children who need facts, proof, and concrete information.
• Pre-revealing gifts can reduce anxiety around uncertainty and unmet expectations.
• Test travel limits gradually during non-holiday times rather than attempting new challenges during high-stress periods.
• Social stories and therapist support can help prepare children for holiday travel and events.
• Give Santa an "expiration date" (such as age 8) to manage the transition away from the tradition.
• Avoid comparing your family's holiday experience to idealized versions—create traditions that work for your unique situation.
• Utilize airport sensory-friendly rooms and other available resources when traveling.
• It's liberating to prioritize what works for your family over traditional holiday expectations.

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Refrigerator Moms is sponsored by Brain Performance Technologies, a specialty mental health clinic that offers neuromodulation treatments including SAINT (Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy) for treatment-resistant depression and major depressive disorder, as well as MERT (Magnetic e-resonance therapy) for autistic people aged three or older. Learn more at https://brainperformancetechnologies.com