Relationship As Medicine

Natalia Sanyal returns to The Relationship As Medicine Podcast for a second time. We dive into trauma-informed and anti-oppressive marketing PRACTICES for business owners.

We take a look at how to care for our audience AND ourselves when marketing from this perspective. We look at some outdated ways of marketing and talk about possibilities of an entirely new foundation and paradigm of marketing that's inspired, supportive and creates ease and connection.

About Natalia:

Natalia is an anti-oppressive copywriter and brand messaging strategist. In the last decade, she has worked with billion-dollar businesses like Apple and lululemon, New York Times bestselling authors like Layla Saad & Deepak Chopra, and award-winning marketing agencies. Now she teaches high-integrity personal brands to use marketing as a force for good so they can sell better and harm less.

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Stephen Terrell joins me for a third time in this inspiring episode about bringing a caring heart to our work in supporting clients on their trauma healing journey.

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And... SO much more.

Have a listen and let us know how it lands for you. We truly want to know.

More about Stephen: 

Stephen J. Terrell, PsyD, SEP, is a leading expert in the field of Developmental Trauma and Adoption and is recognized around the world for his work in Developmental Trauma and Healing. He understands Developmental Trauma from the inside out and the outside in. Terrell has performed more than 25,000 individual Transforming Touch® sessions and taught thousands of students from around the world in the art of Transforming Touch® as it relates to healing Developmental Trauma. 

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Gail Susan Gordon joins me as we look at nervous system regulation within the therapeutic relationship, whether working with individual adults or supporting parents, caregivers and children. As we support and foster attunement and regulation within the healing relationship, we create the conditions that allow people to grow and flourish.

Gail describes her compassionate view on how to best support the healing process for adults who’ve had challenging childhoods. You're sure to leave this episode feeling warmth in your heart and more grounded and at ease.

About Gail, in her own words:

My own journey has taught me that healing is not only possible, it’s a reality one can count on. When I bring together my training and my personal experience, I’m able to support people to move forward in a meaningful way.
I’ve worked as a psychotherapist with children and adults for almost 15 years. My training includes advanced studies in early development, trauma and somatics (body-oriented therapies). My work incorporates the impact of culture and social/political oppression in our daily lives.
A special interest has been integrating the body into therapy through many programs, including Somatic Experiencing, Somatic Resilience and Regulation, and Transforming the Experienced Based Brain/Transforming Touch. Learning the abundance of ways the body and mind are designed to heal from stress and trauma is an ongoing revelation. I share with you what I learn, incorporating it into my approach to working together. I’m looking forward to our journey.

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Jivana Heyman shares how accessibility flows naturally from ethics. We explore how accessibility and trauma informed care weave together as we support those in our care. This conversation applies not only to. yoga teachers and facilitators but to anyone in a supporting and healing role.

We delve into the theme of sharing power and why we do this with those in our care. Collaboration is key in how we show up and empower students, clients and participants. This conversation is sure to leave you feeling inspired and with some fresh perspectives in your approach to healing whether you're facilitator or participant.

About Jivana:

Jivana Heyman, C-IAYT, E-RYT500, is the founder and director of Accessible Yoga, an organization dedicated to increasing access to the yoga teachings and supporting yoga teachers.

He’s the author of the books: Accessible Yoga: Poses and Practices for Every Body; Yoga Revolution: Building a Practice of Courage & Compassion; and a new book, The Teacher's Guide to Accessible Yoga: Best Practices for Sharing Yoga with Every Body.

Over the past thirty years of teaching yoga, Jivana has focused on welcoming all people to yoga and celebrating our individuality and our differences. His work has focused on dismantling ableism in the yoga world, as well as looking at the intersection of yoga and social justice.

His books, classes, and trainings offer support to yoga teachers and yoga therapists in finding ways to bring creativity and collaboration into their teaching while still respecting the ancient yoga tradition.

More information at jivanaheyman.com

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Justin Salamon and I explore the intersections between the therapeutic power of working in the outdoor industry and supporting clients in our healing modalities.

About Justin

Justin Salamon, MA - Certified Rolfer:

"My first experience with Rolfing® SI was in 2000 when I was seeking help for chronic shoulder dislocations. I was an avid climber, backpacker and paddler working in the outdoor industry but injuries threatened my ability to continue my livelihood. My first ten series was transformative – walking was joyful in a way I had never experienced, breathing was effortless, my coordination improved and old pains disappeared. I realized that I needed to study Rolfing SI to understand the changes that had occurred in my body and to share the work with others.

Since 2002 I have been privileged to practice Rolfing Structural Integration, and in the process help clients of all ages and backgrounds. I approach each session as an opportunity to understand the physical and psycho-biological patterns that make each client unique, and enjoy the challenge of helping each person become pain-free, embodied, and more comfortable in his/her everyday life. Rolfing fuels my passion for deepening my knowledge of the human body and the human experience through formal education and independent study.

When I am not Rolfing you can find me helping with the management of Canyon Explorations where we offer 13-18 day human powered river trips through Grand Canyon. I still get on the river as a Guide and Trip Leader but have more time to devote to Rolfing and management. My free time is spent exploring the mountains, rivers and canyons. Most importantly my time is spent learning, adventuring and growing with my children."

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In this episode, Sarah Buino and I dive into the current business landscape of therapists and care providers. We shine a light on the prevalent issue of burnout gripping many within these professions, particularly in our current times.

Sarah shares her personal journey, from the early days in community mental health to running group therapy practices. Through her experiences, we uncover valuable lessons and insights that have shaped her path. As we navigate the conversation, it becomes evident that a pandemic of burnout is silently affecting therapists and care providers on a wide scale.

This episode serves as an illuminating exploration of the challenges within these professions, offering a candid look at the struggles many practitioners face. Together, Sarah and I discuss strategies to navigate and alleviate burnout, emphasizing the importance of finding ease and steadiness in the midst of demanding roles.

Whether you're a therapist or a care provider of any kind, this episode provides valuable insights into the unique challenges faced and the crucial role of self-care and support. Tune in for a conversation that sheds light on the realities of the field and offers guidance on cultivating resilience and well-being in the face of burnout.

About Sarah

Sarah Buino is a speaker, educator, therapist and the founder of the therapy practice Head/Heart Therapy, Inc and consulting organization Head/Heart Business Therapy. She’s a member of the adjunct faculty at Loyola University Chicago and a podcast host. Her podcast called Conversations With a Wounded Healer examines the role of one’s own healing while being a care-giving professional. Sarah’s new podcast series The Burnt Out Practice Owner discusses the current state of group therapy practice ownership—the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Sarah’s Authentic Leaders Group, an 8- month program for therapists who want to enhance their leadership skills, begins this Friday, February 9, 2024

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Te and I dream together about the upcoming retreat in Panama, exploring how somatic-focused movement offers deep nourishment and support for the nervous system work we'll be diving into on the retreat. We delve into Te’s inclusive approach that honors all bodies that carry diverse stories and experiences about movement.  

Take a peek into this conversation to get a feel for Te’s morning practice, which will set the tone for each day of our retreat.

Join us in Panama for Soulful in May - there are still spots left, and it would be an honor to support you on your journey from burnout to inspiration and newfound clarity as a health and wellness provider. 

This retreat is designed especially for those on a trauma-healing journey, aiming to deepen the understanding of the impact of "less is more". Join us to find your True North through gently settling your nervous system and sinking into spaciousness so you can listen, receive and respond to the wisdom of your body, heart and mind.  

In addition to our daily movement practices, you’ll find teachings and workshops on how to welcome all parts of yourself, alongside coaches, therapists, and health and well-being professionals surrounded by the sea and tropical forests

Reserve your place today and step into a space of renewal. 

About Teresa

Teresa Prado has been a movement instructor for the past seven years after finishing the Rizze Yoga Immersion Training in Vancouver. Since then, they have done extensive training in somatic movement alongside training and volunteering with Yoga Outreach to offer free trauma-informed movement practices to a diverse population, from rehab centres to seniors' homes.

With a slow and steady rhythm in order to be inclusive of all bodies and abilities, Teresa encourages folks to tap into their needs to experience the class however they wish. The main objective is to offer a safer space for people to connect with their bodies and explore what movement, breath and mindfulness means to themselves.

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Learn new concepts around nervous system regulation and healing, to be guided in 20-25 minute daily practices, meditate, breathe, move, laugh, love it, hate it, and everywhere in between.

You are invited to my 7-day live free series starting Monday, January 8th through Sunday, January 14th at 9-9:30 AM PST. Just 30-minutes a day. Come home to yourself, add support for your trauma healing, and get in touch with your innate capacity for healing and growth. Learn more here.

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This week, I am so grateful to welcome Kristen Ales, LPC & Kristin Mathes, LCSW of the Wilder Wellness Podcast. Our conversation delves into the power of connection through group experiential work - a topic that we’ve been reflecting a lot on lately. We also explore how we as practitioners learn to let go of old habits, particularly the tendency to push ourselves too hard in not only our own healing journeys but also in our professional lives. 

The three of us also share our experiences facilitating retreats in nature and the power of connecting in groups. Kristin gives us a preview of her deep prep for launching EMERGE, a surf therapy retreat which involves a lot of somatic-based practices with Mother Ocean - happening in February 2025. And in a very vulnerable and honest share, I open up about my process around planning my upcoming retreat and what it’s been like in getting the word out about it.

This episode invites you into a circle of kind, regulated, well-intentioned, compassionate and wonderfully inspired humans. For healing practitioners (especially for those who focus on trauma healing and nervous system regulation), I hope this episode serves you as a deep exhale.

Wilder Wellness is a podcast all about exploring our relationship with our bodies, minds, and communities through an adventurous lens. Tune in each week as Kristen Ales & Kristin Mathes navigate new topics around emotional health, physical health, and living life outside of the box. Kristen and Kristin are two licensed therapists, & friends, for empowering and inspiring interviews with wellness professionals, outdoor enthusiasts, and big thinkers, dreamers & doers who are changing the prescription for true well-being.

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About Kristin + Kristen

Kristin Mathes, LCSW is a psychotherapist specializing in trauma, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), Anxiety, and Depression. She owns and operates her own private practice where she works with women and adolescents who are finding themselves trapped by physical symptoms of trauma, anxiety, and depression. Much of her therapeutic practice is inspired by her time spent as a Wilderness Therapist guiding clients through wilderness expeditions. Nature has always shown her how much our present-day activities disconnect us from our Self, our body, and our relationships. And, importantly, how our physical and emotional health issues can arise from such disconnection.

Check out Kristin’s website to learn more about her work.

Kristin is launching registration for Emerge, her surf therapy retreat on February 21, 2024

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Kristen Ales, LPC is a licensed therapist who specializes in disordered eating and negative body image. After years of disordered eating and hating her body, Kristen built a more trusting and respectful relationship with her body through outdoor activity. Since her early twenties, Kristen has spent years guiding outdoor adventure trips which led to her receiving her Master’s degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling with an emphasis in Wilderness Therapy. 

Since receiving her Master’s degree, Kristen has founded her own company Wilder Wellness. She works with women of all sizes to help them build confidence in their bodies, on and off of the trail. In this work, Kristen has created and facilitated size-inclusive outdoor adventure retreats, designed online group programs, and courses, and works with clients individually in her clinical practice. 

In her free time, she enjoys exploring new places, cooking, and finding new ways to bring her creativity to life.

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I am so moved and honored to welcome Kelly McDaniel LPC, NCC to the podcast to discuss her book Mother Hunger, a personal life-changer that I frequently recommend to my clients. During this powerful conversation, we explore the term “Mother Hunger” and its various impacts on daughters with mothers who weren’t able to tend to them in nurturing and supportive ways.

We also discuss:

Whether you’re a mental health professional or someone healing their own Mother Hunger, this conversation will offer insights and connection in a kind and compassionate way.

I left this conversation feeling deeply touched by the depth and topics we navigated through and truly in awe of Kelly’s ability to put words to such a heartbreaking experience that I have not only experienced but I know many of you have as well.

About Kelly McDaniel, LPC, NCC

Kelly McDaniel is a licensed professional counselor,author, mother, and women’s advocate. In her first book Ready to Heal, (2008) she named an attachment injury as “Mother Hunger” and started a movement.

Women resonated with the concept and wanted treatment. Since then, Kelly devotes herself to nurturing insecure attachment and maternal deprivation in adult women. In her second book, Mother Hunger, Kelly speaks to the millions of women who suffer with a life-long emotional burden that adversely affects self-worth, eating patterns, and relational wellness.

Catch Kelly speaking at Hay House’s I Can Do It! event in March 2024, located in Pheonix, AZ. 

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I am so excited to be joined by Megan deBoer again as we reflect on expanding, receiving money/abundance, what we see in the clients we work with and what inspires us to do this work. 

We touch on: 

This work not only applies to money, but about whatever it is we need to flourish in our businesses and lives.

About Megan:

Megan deBoer is the founder of Tended Wealth, a business that helps individuals heal their emotional and practical relationship to money. As a certified Financial Recovery Counselor, her approach considers the context of our current financial circumstance: our lived experience, our family of origin, and the broad culture that together shape our beliefs about money. She is passionate about transforming this fundamental part of our lives from shame and overwhelm to a sense of agency, clarity, and potential. She specializes in helping women who are self-employed to radically increase their earning. Her course participants and 1:1 clients regularly attest to the life-changing power of this work.

You can read more about Megan's work on her website.

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