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- We're Being Lead Back To Ourselves with Dené Logan
Dené Logan and I delve into the realms of self-discovery, authenticity, and spirituality. In this episode, we explore the power of presence and trust in one's unique path. We dive deep into the experience of struggle and suffering and the meaning it plays in our lives. Our conversation takes us on a journey towards a connection with something greater, whether it be spirit, source, or the divine. Join us as we give you permission to drop the "shoulds" and create space for your own authentic expression of this present moment.
About Dené:
Dené is a therapist, facilitator, and co-host of the podcast, Cheaper than Therapy. She is known for her nurturing presence and authenticity. Dené specializes in supporting couples in finding more fulfillment in their relationships, and utilizing her background in depth psychology to explore how each of us can reclaim the aspects of our authentic selves we’ve been societally conditioned to turn away from. Her first book, Liberated Love: A Guide to Healing Relationships by Reclaiming the Masculine and Feminine Within, will be released in May of 2024.
IG: @dene.logan
TikTok: @msinterdependent
LinktreeConnect with Shelby:
Instagram: @fierceheart.shelbyleigh
Facebook
LinkedIn
YouTube
www.shelby-leigh.com
Body Of Work
44 min - Why Should We Bother? with Katie Kurtz
Katie returns for a second episode as we explore the importance of being trauma-informed in any industry that involves caring for humans. Katie and I discuss how this form of care is a practice of humanity and connection, and how it can lead to boundless possibilities for healing and growth for all parties involved. We emphasize that trauma-informed care is a long game and stress the importance of showing up in this way, even if we think we may not need to. Tune in to learn more about the significance of trauma informed care!
About Katie:
Katie Kurtz, MSW LISW-S (she/her) is a subject matter expert on trauma-informed care and its application across multi-disciplinary industries. Using the Trauma Competency Framework™, Katie trains and mentors leaders of all kinds of ways to make trauma-informed care inclusive and adoptable for all professions. Katie is the author of the Contain Card Deck©, a reflective tool to hold space for yourself and others.
Website: Katie-Kurtz.com
Instagram: @_katiekurtz
LinkedIn
Also, right now in April if you'd like to deepen your skills, knowledge and embodiment of trauma informed care there's an incredible offering happening - Shelby's Body of Work and Creating Safer Space programs are available for up to $850 off! Check it out here
Connect with Shelby:
Instagram: @fierceheart.shelbyleigh
Facebook
LinkedIn
YouTube
Body Of Work
43 min - Trauma Informed Care for All Spaces with Katie Kurtz
In this week’s episode, I was so happy to talk with Katie Kurtz about trauma-informed care. During this talk, we emphasize that being trauma-informed requires not just knowledge, but also active practice and integration of skills. We go into:
- Katie's working definitions of trauma and trauma informed care
- The difference between trauma awareness, trauma-informed care, and being trauma-responsive
- Why we DON’T use the term “safe space”
- And we look at the myth that trauma-informed care is a clinical approach reserved only for clinicians to use.
…and so much more!
Listeners can expect to gain a deeper understanding of trauma and the knowing that having your own lived experience is enough to be trauma-informed.
About Katie:
Katie Kurtz, MSW LISW-S (she/her) is a subject matter expert on trauma-informed care and its application across multi-disciplinary industries. Using the Trauma Competency Framework™, Katie trains and mentors leaders of all kinds of ways to make trauma-informed care inclusive and adoptable for all professions. Katie is the author of the Contain Card Deck©, a reflective tool to hold space for yourself and others.
Website: Katie-Kurtz.com
Instagram: @_katiekurtz
LinkedIn
Connect with Shelby:
Instagram: @fierceheart.shelbyleigh
Facebook
LinkedIn
www.creatingsaferspace.com
www.creatingsaferhealthcare.com
Body Of Work
46 min - Visibility Medicine - Danielle interviews Shelby
In this deeply personal episode, I’m interviewed by Danielle Cohen for her private online group, Visibility Medicine, which she generously offered to let me publish on my podcast. This discussion bridges my personal life and business, where:
- Danielle asks me about my visibility wounds and we explore my experience of neurodiversity and the impacts of complex trauma
- I share about an unfortunate experience I had that kept me silent in the coaching world for years
- I describe the ruptures that shook me to the core as I lost my voice and am still finding words to speak again, and how that has inspired my intention to be a refuge for myself and others through my work and in my life
Many of the stories I share are about breaking unspoken contracts in many venues of life and how I found the empowerment to make that happen.
Connect With Danielle:
Instagram: @daniellecohenphotography
Websites: www.visibilitymedicine.com + www.danielle-cohen.com
Connect with Shelby:
Instagram: @fierceheart.shelbyleigh
Facebook
LinkedIn
YouTube
Body Of Work
1 hr 14 min - People Pleaser's Guide to Anger with Juna Mustad
In this episode, Juna Mustad, SEP joins me again for a meaningful conversation about Anger.
What is anger? Where does it come from? And how can you learn to welcome and embrace anger to live a more expressed and authentic life with energy and clarity?
In this episode, we'll be exploring these questions and shine a light on:
- How learning to welcome and embrace anger allows us to live a more expressed and authentic life with energy and clarity.
- Why it's important to set boundaries around your feelings
- How safety plays a crucial role in not letting us get in touch with anger and express it.
- How anger shows up in our bodies
- Benefits and tools for creating a greater relationship with anger
- Top 6 things that anger stuffers can do with their anger.
About Juna:
Juna Mustad, SEP is a Coach, & Intuitive. Over the last 13 years, Juna has been supporting people to develop emotional intelligence, grow their intuition, create healthy relationships and embrace their full potential. She works with individuals and groups around the world to support them in healing, embodiment and enhancing overall wellbeing. Juna is trained as a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, a coach, and is also an intuitive. Through her work, she aims to bridge the worlds of spirituality with greater body awareness and emotional intelligence.
Check out Juna’s upcoming course, The People Pleaser's Guide to Anger, a 6-week journey of cultivating a healthier relationship with your anger, boundaries, and innate power, beginning on March 5, 2023.
Website: www.JunaMustad.com
Instagram: @juna.mustad
Facebook: Juna Mustad
Connect with Shelby:
Instagram: @fierceheart.shelbyleigh
Facebook
LinkedIn
www.creatingsaferspace.com
www.creatingsaferhealthcare.com
Body Of Work
48 min - Why You Need Support As a Helping Professional with Will Rēzin
Will Rēzin and I got together today to discuss the importance of leaning into support as a coach, therapist, healer and/or helper. We not only talk about many aspects of my own Body of Work and my program Body of Work... we talk about how high integrity and ethical care providers can up-level their skill so they can be regulated, centered and skilled when sitting with clients and running their businesses with ease.
Curious about Body of Work? Find out more about it here: www.shelby-leigh.com/body-of-workAnd, here is Will and his incredible work: www.rezinconsulting.com/
Connect with Shelby:
Instagram: @fierceheart.shelbyleigh
www.creatingsaferspace.com
www.creatingsaferhealthcare.com
Body Of Work
43 min - Embodying Presence Pt. 2 with Ryan McGladrey
This is Part 2 of a 2-part series.
Following up on the last episode, Ryan McGladrey, DOMTP and I bring you more conversations as well as somatic practices around embodying presence and the "how-to's" of meeting each moment. Some topics we delve into in this episode are:
- Listening as a skill: The how-to’s of that + exploring the concept of active receptivity
- Going deeper by going lighter
- Coming home to ourselves in each moment
- How to meet each other with genuine presence
- How to welcome what's been exiled and care about anything that shows up with ourselves or the people we work with
Download the 9-minute guided experience from this episode directly on our website.
We hope that there’s something you can take away and integrate from this episode that will support you in finding home in your mind, heart, and body, and in the present moment.
About Ryan:
Ryan is trained as an osteopath, somatic coach, and body-mind educator, his work is the fruit of over two decades of ongoing study and practice in a wide range of specialized approaches to healing and growth.
He works with clients to resolve pressing life challenges, especially concerning physical function, emotional development, and spiritual motivation. Through addressing restrictions in movement and feeling, Ryan helps people reconnect with their abilities to heal and thrive. He also offers innovative trainings in how to effectively use whole-body intelligence to meet the challenges and possibilities of twenty-first century life.
You can email Ryan at: [email protected]
Connect with Shelby:
Instagram: @fierceheart.shelbyleigh
www.creatingsaferspace.com
www.creatingsaferhealthcare.com
Body Of Work
1 hr 16 min - Embodying Presence Pt. 1 with Ryan McGladrey
This is Part 1 of a 2-part series.
In this episode series, Ryan McGladrey, DOMTP and I nerd out about the nuances of embodied presence and how that can serve and support those we work with. The foundation of our conversation is exploring the simplicity of being present with another human and the power of seeing people just as they are. Throughout both episodes, we examine the following:
- Our top tips on how do we go deeper by going lighter and how can we come home to ourselves in each moment?
- We get vulnerable on how do we meet each other with genuine presence and what medicine, healing and growth comes from it for each of us.
- How do we welcome what's been exiled and care about anything that shows up with our clients and patients in sessions?
Ryan and I have known each other for nearly 20 years and this episode is a glimpse of our many conversations discussing how we can be most supportive in our therapeutic connections.
Click here for Part II, where we go into more of the "how-to's" and practices of what we explore here.
About Ryan:
Ryan is trained as an osteopath, somatic coach, and body-mind educator, his work is the fruit of over two decades of ongoing study and practice in a wide range of specialized approaches to healing and growth.
He works with clients to resolve pressing life challenges, especially concerning physical function, emotional development, and spiritual motivation. Through addressing restrictions in movement and feeling, Ryan helps people reconnect with their abilities to heal and thrive. He also offers innovative trainings in how to effectively use whole-body intelligence to meet the challenges and possibilities of twenty-first century life.
You can email Ryan at: [email protected]
Connect with Shelby:
Instagram: @fierceheart.shelbyleigh
www.creatingsaferspace.com
www.creatingsaferhealthcare.com
Body Of Work
1 hr 2 min - Embodying High Integrity Branding and Marketing with Natalia Sanyal
How do we use marketing as a force for good? Natalia Sanyal joins me in an engaging conversation around how we can connect with our audiences and clients in a way that doesn't cause harm. Drawing from our own lived experience and our work with clients, we discuss:
- The potential to feel more aligned with the way we share our work to the world in a marketing space that has historically been oppressive, manipulative and demanding
- How we can give ourselves more space for marketing in a trauma-informed way, while giving ourselves so much permission to be imperfect and to truly have space to be ourselves
By working together as a culture, we can find ways to create choice, empowerment and inspiration towards marketing that is high integrity.
About Natalia
Natalia is an anti-oppressive copywriter and brand messaging strategist.
In the last decade, she has worked with billion-dollar businesses, New York Times bestselling authors, and award-winning marketing agencies. Now she teaches high-integrity personal brands to use marketing as a force for good—so that they can create demand without causing harm to humanity and to themselves.
Website: www.nataliasanyal.com
Check out Natalia’s Get Embodied marketing program for high-integrity personal brands.
Connect with Shelby:
Instagram: @fierceheart.shelbyleigh
www.creatingsaferspace.com
www.creatingsaferhealthcare.com
Body Of Work
46 min - Steady and Secure As We're Tending Business and Clients with Danielle Cohen
In this episode, Danielle Cohen and I discuss what's happening in the field right now in ourselves and our clients around business growth. We approach questions like:
- How do we approach business growth authentically?
- How do we stay healthy, inspired and in a state of self-trust when we can't control external circumstances around income, marketing and industry "standards"?
If you are a helper, a wellness entrepreneur, a creative, a coach or a therapist, this might resonate with you and offer you new ways of grounding down into your business - doing your thing, your way.
We can be in our work in a connected, embodied and supported way.
Whatever your bank account doesn't or doesn't do - you get to feel more steady and secure.
About Danielle:
Danielle Cohen (she/her) is a visibility coach and brand photographer with a unique approach to helping pro-social creative entrepreneurs, coaches, visionaries, and healers (aka beacons) step into and offer their greatest work by becoming more visible on their terms, owning their story and their magic, having the impact they’re here to have and thriving while doing it.
Connect With Danielle:
Instagram: @daniellecohenphotography
Websites: www.visibilitymedicine.com + www.danielle-cohen.com
Connect With Shelby
Instagram: @fierceheart.shelbyleigh
www.creatingsaferspace.com
www.creatingsaferhealthcare.com
Body Of Work
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About Relationship As Medicine
From the publisher's feed
Relationship As Medicine with Shelby Leigh, LPC, explores healing beyond pathology — where connection is the medicine and “fixing” isn’t the goal. Rooted in somatics, trauma healing, and nervous…
system tending, it expands into neurodivergence, including high-masking Autism, ADHD/KCS/VAST, AuDHD, and neurocomplexity (Mackereth, 2023). For therapists, coaches, wellness providers, and anyone curious about their own neurotype, this is a space to unlearn, de-stigmatize, and come home to yourself — to be ignited, inspired, and met with fierce compassion, with zero interest in masking who you are.