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Cincinnati pediatrician Dr. Nicole Baldwin, who recently asked President Biden about vaccine misinformation at a CNN town hall, talks with Brian Stelter about what she's seeing on the front lines of the vaccination effort. She describes the challenges she faces on social platforms and in her community, offering tips for tackling misinformation. She points out, "The anti-vaccine community doesn't have to prove anything... As long as they plant that seed of doubt... they've won."

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Plus... Following up with Dr. Nicole Baldwin, who questioned Biden at CNN's town hall; Ruth Ben-Ghiat on "strongman" propaganda techniques; Claire Atkinson on NBC going for gold in the "streaming Olympics;" and more. Andy Slavitt, Carl Bernstein, Oliver Darcy, Ruth Ben-Ghiat, Claire Atkinson and Julie K. Brown join Brian Stelter.

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Phillip Smith is the founder and director of the Google News Initiative Startups Bootcamp, which trains journalists to launch digital news sites in eight weeks. Smith joins Brian Stelter to discuss the "skills crossover" for journalists; how they can “grow financially viable, award-winning digital newsrooms;" and what can sometimes go wrong. Smith shares takeaways from the inaugural bootcamp in 2020 and describes the application process for this year. He says this is about "a movement of people that are trying to address needs that are no longer being met" in their communities.

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Plus... The big question for reporters writing Trump books; Perry Bacon, Jr. on "core values" for newsrooms; "Culture of Fear" author Barry Glassner on Covid-19 coverage; and more. Brian Boland, Perry Bacon, Jr., Charlotte Alter, Michael Wolff, Susan Glasser and Barry Glassner join Brian Stelter.

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For several years The Atlantic staff writer David Frum cautioned against the "too-easy" use of the word "fascism" to describe Donald Trump's movement. But he now believes the word is useful for political analysis of American politics. There are different "varieties of fascism," Frum says, but some characteristics are clearly present in the reactions to the January 6 attack and the recent rhetoric from Trump. Brian Stelter asks Frum to assess how the former president should be covered by the news media.

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Nikki Usher shares insights from her new book "News for the Rich, White, and Blue: How Place and Power Distort American Journalism." Usher, an associate professor at University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign​, says "quality journalism" is increasingly reaching affluent and urban consumers at the expense of others. Plus, "the people who still trust American journalism are overwhelmingly liberal," she says. But the journalism itself "really perpetuates existing power structures, leaving a lot of those 'blue' readers fundamentally unsatisfied." She discusses how subscription business models exacerbate these trends and offers some "proposals," like making journalism "more inclusive."

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Plus... Running out of words to describe the climate crisis; a reporter's notebook from Kabul; will Bill Cosby speak out, and will anyone listen? Dr. Jonathan Reiner, Oliver Darcy, Sara Fischer, David Sanger, Jennifer Epstein, Anna Coren, Emily Atkin and David Wallace-Wells join Brian Stelter.

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Monica Richardson, who became the top editor of the Miami Herald six months ago, talks with Brian Stelter about the Herald’s first week of coverage of the condo collapse and why she expects "this story to go on for at least a year." Richardson describes how the newsroom initially mobilized to cover the collapse; why staffers from all across the newsroom have turned into disaster reporters; and how the organization set up a “Surfside bureau” for staffers to collaborate and recharge. She also shares the takeaways from a recent training session about grappling with trauma; talks about "sustaining our mental health" over the long haul; and touches on her priorities as executive editor.

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Plus... Adam Serwer on his new book "The Cruelty is the Point;" reinventing the Los Angeles Times; and more. Adam Serwer, Rick Hutzell, Patrick Soon-Shiong and Kevin Merida join Brian Stelter on an abbreviated episode.

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In their first joint interview, Los Angeles Times owner and executive chairman Patrick Soon-Shiong and newly-appointed executive editor Kevin Merida join Brian Stelter and answer questions about the future of the publication. "We're competing for subscriptions" and competing for peoples' time and money, Merida says. "I want to be the most exciting, innovative media company that exists, anchored out in California." He talks about expanding into new areas, from comedy to poetry, and turning the publication into a much larger media company. Soon-Shiong reaffirms his commitment to the outlet; addresses his role in Alden Global Capital's takeover of Tribune Publishing; and shares his view of what the government should do to balance the local news playing field.

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