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Plus... David French on 'the nationalization of outrage;' Mark Simon on the police raid at the Apple Daily newspaper in Hong Kong and how it's having a chilling effect on the press in Hong Kong; and more. Drew Shenkman, Katelyn Polantz, David Zurawik, Jennifer Mercieca, David French, Elaine Yu and Mark Simon join Brian Stelter.
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Jay Rosen, who teaches journalism at NYU and authors the PressThink blog, discusses the devolution of Fox News; the difficulty of describing a "shifted political universe" in the United States; and the need for news outlets to be "much more explicitly and aggressively pro-democracy." He says "Fox is becoming in some way more demand-driven" because "its audience is in the driver's seat in a way that's more extreme than when Roger Ailes ran the network." For example, Rosen comments, "Do you want January 6 to be the fault of Antifa? You can have that. Do you want Trump to have won the 2020 election? You can have that." Rosen explains that "these kinds of maneuvers are attempting to sever people from reality so that you can do what you want with them... to just sort of de-anchor people from anything that they have in common with their fellow citizens so that they can be manipulated further. And that's why it's so insidious." Rosen says "journalists have to rethink and rebuild their routines" to cover this new political universe.
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Plus... Inside The AP's meeting with Israeli officials; James Murdoch versus his father Rupert; new hope for missing journalist Austin Tice? Sam Feist, Oliver Darcy, Amanda Carpenter, Ruth Eglash, Ian Phillips, Stephen Engelberg and Mike Holtzman join Brian Stelter.
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New York Times contributing op-ed writer Thomas Edsall warns about Republicans attempting to enforce "white political dominance;" anti-democratic trends in American politics; and the blind spots he sees in media coverage. "Trump and the Republican Party have created a real dilemma for the media," he tells Brian Stelter. "When you have a party that is moving in this extreme fashion, how do we in the media describe it?" Stelter also asks Edsall about bridging the academic and journalistic worlds, pointing to the staggering amount of academic research on "democratic decline," and why this is "not just an ivory tower issue."
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Plus... Why spying on journalists is an affront to the First Amendment; and a sneak peek at the new reporting in Brian Stelter's book "Hoax." Kaitlan Collins, Adam Goldman, Dan Abrams, Steven Waldman and Jen Psaki join the conversation.
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Judd Legum, the founder of the Popular Information newsletter, discusses his three years of reporting on "the delta between what corporations say" and what they do. Legum explains his early success on Substack, the power of the newsletter format, and his expertise diving into "troves of information, whether that's FEC, SEC, the Facebook ad library," or other sources.
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Plus... One-on-one with AP managing editor after social media firestorm; the link between far-right media sources and conspiracies; how One America News is boosting the bogus Arizona election audit; and more. Daniel Ziblatt, Matt Skibinski, Kyung Lah, David Leonhardt, Brian Carovillano and Rose and Buddy Fenster join Brian Stelter.
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CNN's Kyung Lah discusses her reporting on the bogus Arizona audit and the role of far-right outlet One America News in the saga. "This is not about right versus left," she says. "This is about truth and lies, and we cannot be afraid to call it a lie." Brian Stelter asks about local coverage of the GOP recount; the "pool" that takes turns observing; and the posture of local officials in Maricopa County. Lah also recounts her viral interview with the president of the Arizona state senate, who defended the credibility of conspiracy-laden OAN. Lah comments on being the proverbial canary in the coal mine, as Maricopa County is "the next page of the Big Lie playbook."
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Plus... Biden breaks from Trump and Obama on leak probes; Tribune's sale and the fragile future of local news; Chicago mayor sparks debate over diversity and media access; social media guidelines gone awry at the AP? Claire Atkinson, Nicole Hemmer, Perry Bacon Jr., Edward-Isaac Dovere, Gregory Pratt, Max Foster and John Ware join Brian Stelter.
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Dr. Joan Donovan, the research director for the Shorenstein Center at Harvard’s Kennedy School, has become a leading voice in the fight against digital disinformation. She shares her insights with Brian Stelter, exploring the links between the current media landscape and the Occupy movement ten years ago; underscoring the importance of algorithms and platform policies; and touching on important concepts for average platform "users" and lawmakers alike.
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