Renée DiResta is a writer and the technical research manager at Stanford Internet Observatory.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Renée DiResta discuss how we can turn down the temperature on debates around social media and find real solutions; why terms like “censorship” and “misinformation” fail to capture the complex difficulties in reforming social media; and why, as a resident of San Francisco, she supported the school board and District Attorney recalls.

This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity.

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