While presenting at TED Democracy last month, Katie Paris met a fellow presenter named Danielle Roberts. Danielle calls herself an "anti-career coach" and is all about dealing with burnout, finding a better balance, and how to follow our passion. Katie had such great conversations with her at TED that we knew we needed to bring Danielle to the pod to share those conversations with our community.

And Danielle didn't disappoint! She gave some valuable advice about how we can feel more fulfilled in our work and tools to re-evaluate whether we should be doing another kind of work entirely! And her advice isn't limited to traditional jobs with a 40-hour workweek -- it can apply to parenting, volunteering, relationships, or anything else in our life that we care about deeply but can burn us out.

Danielle was an amazing balance point between our resident workaholic Katie and our self-care advocate LaFonda. Whether you work full-time, you're retired, your activism is your work, your family is your work, or anything in between, there's something for everyone to learn from Danielle's wisdom.

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