Doug chats with Jillian Johnsrud about all-things mini retirement including preparation, challenges, and key insights.  They explore how to test what retiring might look like through sabbaticals and mini retirements, touch on the importance of adapting to a new lifestyle, and address common issues that arise, such as maintaining productivity and managing professional identity post-retirement.  Jillian also offers practical tips from her new book ‘Retire Often’ and discusses the importance of being prepared for the emotional and practical adjustments that come with early retirement.

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0:00 Introduction

1:11 Journey to early retirement & work-life balance

9:52 Testing retirement

14:15 Challenges of early retirement

20:24 Professional identity & personal value

29:29 Not as important as you think

33:57 The Messy Kitchen

38:51 Importance of rest & avoiding burnout

43:15 Retire Often

48:28 Soundcheck – Walking challenge